And people wonder why I have no respect for George R R Martin. Why I have no respect for JK rowling, destroyer of her Legacy is self-evident at this point
I respect Martins approach. Not every fantasy writer has to be a Tolkien.
Tolkien: Writes a complex, multifaceted story set in a rich universe in a single elegant novel across three volumes.
Martin: Is five books into his trilogy with at least two more to go and still has no idea where the story is going.
I think I know which approach I respect more…
GRRM is great at giving input and following the formula, as evidenced by Elden Ring. Not so much with creating an enormous, generational body of work.
Miyazaki says that the pair had “many free and creative conversations… which Mr Martin later used as a base to write the overarching mythos for the game world itself.” So by this he’s responsible for the world’s founding lore. “This mythos proved to be full of interesting characters and drama along with a plethora of mystical and mysterious elements as well,” added Miyazaki. “It was a wonderful source of stimulus for me and the development staff. Elden Ring’s world was constructed using this mythos and stimulus as a base.”
From an interview.
I’m struggling to think of anything lore wise in gambo thrones that wasn’t a real event in English history, or at the very least a popular belief / self worshipping mythology
Even as a high schooler I remember thinking a few hundred pages in, wait. Wait… is this the war of the fucking roses
I can never decide which is funnier to me, GRRM being a Disney screenwriter in their children’s animation division or the fact he abandoned the song of ice and fire entirely and now exclusively adds to an absolute trash universe he created about removed racist cajun vampires with alcoholism and gambling that makes Twilight look like Pride and Prejudice
To be fair the children’s story came first. In that regard Tolkien and Rowling had something in common, their first books were written for a much younger and simpler audience. It wasn’t until they took off commercially that the more adult and deep lore was developed.
EDIT: I’m wrong
What? No. First was the story of Arda in a prototype version of the Silmarillon and Unfinished Tales.
Huh, interesting, I didn’t realize Tolkien had started writing portions of the Silmarillion in 1914. I had to do some looking based on your response and learned something.
From what I know, he never really wrote “for” the silmsrillion either. He wrote stories for him to flesh out the history of the world but not with the intention of publishing such stories. Some of them were even just notes about what happened in the world and some weren’t finished.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong
Tolkien is the best ever, but a lot of his stuff is inspired or ported directly from Catholicism.
A lot of that Catholicism stuff is just Christianity with local gods and figures retconed in using saints expansions.
And that whole Christian thing is just a Mediterraneanised/Latinized Zoroastrianism.
… And Zoroastrianism is just hyped up druidism. The Persians were part of that Indo-European world.
This but also various mythological bits and pieces from England, because Tolkien wanted to create an English mythology akin to the Odyssey, Edda or Niebelungen.
Also, fun fact: Tolkien converted C.S. Lewis to Christianity, who almost immediately disappointed him by adopting Anglicanism instead of Catholicism and then decided Tolkien’s stories weren’t Christian enough, so he basically wrote the Narnia books out of spite.
