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Explain to some idiot that as a socialist you’ve gotten for conservative as you got older that you looking into the finer details of economic planning and reading into Stalin, wokes: “omg YoU hAtE gAyS” I swear a lot of social engineering these days to turn people away from these ideas and towards an emotional irrationalism with a horrible aesthetic to keep people in an echo chamber surrounded by self-reflecting identity politics chained to the predominant ideology serving capital.

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No lifting weights to gain some muscle isn’t toxicmasculineity you fucking warped tards.

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It’s almost like both sides are stupid and wrong and just wants to shout at each other without giving any solutions. Both sides just want to be right while society suffers because both sides won’t just shut the actual fuck up. Sick of feminist ideology, sick of aggressive males. Why won’t you all just shut the fuck up with your bullshit. Especially fuck your egos with your identity politics shite whether your a white nationalist tard or a blue haired woke tard.

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Why won’t you all just shut the fuck up with your bullshit.

It would be nice if we all looked around at what’s happening in the world, recognized what we can change, what we can’t, accepted our differences, accepted that we’re human, tried to work together, shook hands and let the best win, whatever.

In this climate, there are too many individual biases in place that prevent that from happening in a way that’s ideal, though - none of us are immune from that, either, unfortunately.

We can work toward it; I’m more interested in practicality, for example, and I try to be aware of my own biases while recognizing the biases of others, without judgement - or at least, with minimal judgement that’s impersonal.

Some people will always be harder for me to connect with than others. That doesn’t make them bad - it’s just a part of the human condition. And sometimes those connections are still very feasible.

It’s usually ok to be “wrong”. It’s usually ok to have an opinion that doesn’t jive with the norm.

It’s complicated. There’s many aspects of feminism that make perfect sense, and it’s more than reasonable for the issues that feminists raise to be discussed. Many (perhaps all - I don’t have a list off hand) are totally legitimate.

There are approaches to feminism that are counter productive…or even just…cringe.

The same could be said for almost any other political issue.

People have been unjustifiably exploited by political issues as well.

I think the media, in general, is problematic. We all rely on it, but it’s too powerful, and the people who have control over what it produces naturally exploit it.

Above all, it’s best to work toward preventing external factors like the media from controlling how you think and feel.

It’s not easy. We all succumb to it in one way or another. Sometimes it even serves a purpose.

The more we’re aware of it, though, the less control it has.

The media is also a tool. One that’s useful. It’s not black and white.

In general, the more we’re aware of how a system itself is designed, and how that affects us, the better.

I know people from many different walks of life who voted for Trump or lean more in the direction of the right; I hold nothing against them for that.

Working toward the interests of society - the best outcome for the majority of people - would be the ideal, but in a way that’s diplomatic and didn’t involve shouting at each other over the Internet.

We might not necessarily be in a position where we can even do that, or at least as well as we could have 10 years ago.

That’s kind of scary.

Anyway, maybe in your case the right thing to do is just take a deep breath; put your phone down, and do something else.

That’s at least what I’m going to do.

Humans definitely gonna human tho.

Understanding that and finding a way to navigate it in a way that’s fruitful is key…

while recognizing that, you too, are human.

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100% agree. Modern day society tells Men to actively express their emotions and feelings without actually providing good, logical advice that helps improves Mens lives and get them out of their depressive states.

Instead of teaching Men to observe and regulate their emotions to become better and find purpose. Now society is encouraging to trap them in an emotional cycle where we need to be dependent on people.

And still society wonders why so many Men are radicalised by gurus like Tate, which is also no good as it comes with mysoginistic opinions and same old conservative beliefs, how Women should be treated.

However, whether people like Tate or not. He definetly has impacted Men and lit a fire underneath. Maybe improved individual lives. After all, Tate saw a weakness in society (Men depression and suicide) and took advantage of it for his own personal gains.

What society needs now is actual Male Role Models. This is where ancient greek philosophy Stoism can be one of the useful solutions to this issue, which should be taught in education systems.

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I don’t like the social engineering trying to tell men what to do, how to think and how to behave.

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I agree to this to some extent. However as you say, letting Men live how they want by being free is what modern society have always been telling them. Yet no purpose, no goals, dreams, motivation? Every human needs a mentor to guide them through life. If you look into stoism, you will understand what I am saying. These ancient greek gods knew their stuff and they were emperors and masters for good reason.

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If men have no positive role models and no framework through which to interact with their emotions and their place in the world, they will find horrible role models like Andrew Tate and come up with crude and self-serving frameworks through which to view the world. Since people find religion cringe for some reason nowadays, personal philosophy and virtue ethics are now our only good option.

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Thus comes forth the popularity of Andrew Tate.

Patriarchal society wins again😎

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Also Society: wHy MeN cOmMiT mOrE sUiCiDe

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