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‘Despite the technical problems outlined in our own review of Cities Skylines 2, Colossal Order says the game is “ready enough to be released.”’

Next time they’re at a restaurant someone should bring them undercooked chicken that looks done on the outside but is raw in the center. When they complain? “The chicken was ready enough to serve”

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10 points

A better comparison would be a raw steak when the customer asked for medium well.

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49 points

Quite the hyperbolic comparison you’ve got there

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11 points

Hey dude, Colossal Order and Paradox gave them salmonella, how could you be so callous!

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30 points

Imperfect game is as bad as potentially fatal food poisoning, obviously.

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18 points

my dad died from playing Cyberpunk on release RIP in peace

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5 points

Hey guys the chicken is going to be undercooked depending on your tableware so don’t order it yet if you think your chicken will end up undercooked.
I’M GONNA ORDER THE CHICKEN! WHY IS THIS CHICKEN UNDERCOOKED? WHY WASN’T I WARNED?

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It’s not quite the same thing though is it.

It’s a bit like developing a microwave meal and it turns out that it only really cooks in 2 minutes if you have an ultra powerful microwave then putting out a press release that says I know it says it’ll cook in 2 minutes on the packaging but unless you have a really powerful microwave add a few minutes to it.

The responsibility is still on the players to have reasonable expectations of the game depending on the hardware that they have.

Also it’s 100% my fault for pre-ordering the damn thing, I don’t know why I did that. But that’s on me because if I really wanted to I could have refunded it.

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93 points

Tl;dr obvious issues already addressed in testing patch, wanted to get game out on stated release date to let players enjoy it regardless

I just got in bed after playing for 12h straight, and it has some minor issues, but I don’t regret my purchase at all.

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6 points

Good, I was hoping this is one developer who won’t totally deuce on their player base.

Really low bar for game studios but that’s where we are.

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15 points

If you want to blame someone, blame the producers, not the devs. They don’t want to be pushed to strict deadlines with artificially limited budgets and whatever enshittification method the execs bought into this week. They want to make good games, but often they work under stifling conditions.

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22 points

How’s the frame rate? I saw some reports of 7-12fps from systems that kick the absolute shit out of my 2 year old gaming laptop and had flashbacks of wasting $50 on KSP2, which I still can’t play despite exceeding the minimum specs. So I figured I’d wait to hear from people for a week or so this time instead of potentially wasting money on release day.

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21 points

There’s a lot of entitled people who are upset because they kicked everything to ultra and yeah , that’s where that 7-12 fps is. Most people can’t fathom fiddling with the settings a bit and maybe lowering them.

The dev sent out a forum post on what settings are causing the biggest lag. I followed their advice and it is completely playable. I’m about 10 hours in and I’m loving it

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I am a firm believer that if you have a bleeding edge system you are 100% entitled to playing stuff in max settings (at least in reasonable resolution). I don’t see the point in blaming the customers when there is clearly a faulty product here.

Just to clear things up I am definitely not one of those people with the bleeding edge system with my 3060.

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3 points

Can you send that forum post? It would have been cool for Paradox to have put a link in their useless launcher, or the steam news, or in the launch announcement, or wherever else. My observation is that Volumetrics and Global Illumination make the game run like garbage, but with global illumination off entirely, the game looks flaaaaaaat.

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17 points

In my experience turning off dof and global illumination takes you from 20 fps to 80 (1440p, rtx 3090)

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A laptop with a 1660ti 6GB got me 20-25fps 1080p low to medium around 10- 20k population. But I turned nearly everything off except for level of detail. Turning off Vsync somehow made it run around 5fps faster.

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Those are pretty much my exact same specs. Asus TUF gaming?

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I’m getting about 30 FPS with 2090

The key though as far as I can see is to make sure it’s on the SSD, that speed up level streaming pretty quickly.

Vsync also doesn’t work, but I haven’t had time to figure out if there’s a workaround.

I don’t know who’s reporting 12 frames per second but they must be running on a potato. It’s definitely not well optimised, but it’s not that bad.

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I was getting 7 fps in the main menu before poking at the settings, but my VII is damaged due to a new faulty 1kW psu that suicide-bombed my machine. I’m amazed it works at all, tbh.

Ultra with 1080 and no motion blur (e: and no AA), I’m getting the same as I got in 1 on 1440 (25-30, also with half dead gpu). I have hope that the additional fixes will bring it on par with 1 for fps.

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3 points

What video card are you using and what resolution / refresh rate.

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1 point

I’ve been playing on my 7840U (integrated graphics) laptop, 1440x900 low settings and FSR averaged around 30fps in early game, so not great but playable

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1 point

Radeon VII (damaged from a psu failure, though). 1080 ultra, no motion blur, no AA. 25-30 fps, as expected on this card (a fully working one I’d expect ~70, it’s about half dead).

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13 points

Also played a ton yesterday. Biggest issue I had was a small stutter every 20 mins or so when zooming in or something. Maybe with certain hardware it’s having issues, high end cards or something? Overall I’m having a great time

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Yeah, honestly, the state of the game is fine. Yes, they should have taken a couple of more weeks to fix up the performance, and they definitively should have chosen more sane default settings…

But, other than that, the launch state is fine. There are no major bugs, and there is nothing too major missing. A lot of things are done and designed quite well actually, I’d say.

Just give it a month or two and then look again. There’s no rush, it’s not a story game. But I’ve been enjoying my time so far.

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16 points

They should have called it early access then it could have been a jpeg of the blender default cube and nobody would care

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