cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/7643915

As always in capitalism, video games have largely deformed from an art form into just another means to generate profit for large corporations

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Bollocks, any decent game needs a fuck ton of capital to develop

Please share all the greatest communist games

Agree that loot boxes suck, they are gambling, not gaming

Edit. Yes, Tetris. One game made in 1985. Brilliant example Tankards.

So the score so far for games made:

Communism - 1

Capitalism - 831,000

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Disco Elysium

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Wolfenstein?

Edit because I thought of a real one. Tetris.

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Cave Story

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Because capitalism was the first time money existed lol

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What? Are you saying the video game industry predates capitalism? Lol

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Tetris enters the chat

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Which was only successful because it got licensed to Western software companies.

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Yeah it being an incredibly addictive universally approachable game has nothing to do with it being widely played for over 40 years… 🙄

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That’s only because in the West there was no way for the game to reach customers at the time. The game was popular in the “Soviet Block” just fine, because distribution model was different.

Today, it would spread through internet like fire.

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That’s like saying only Disney can make movies. Cause they have capital.

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not rly, you don’t have studio level funding if you don’t optimize (the content) for revenue. same with large/aaa level games

edit: according to George Lucas, filmmakers in the USSR had more artistic freedom than he had when making Star Wars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWqvaMEFIdI

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Anyone can make a movie, but you can’t make a big budget movie without a big budget.

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A few (good and one time buy) games off the top of my head (is that how you use the expression/idiom?):

Obviously commie games:

  • Disco Elysium
  • Cruelty Squad

Might or might not be commie, but definitely progressive:

  • Bioshock series

honourable mentions:

  • Vitoria 3 (who would have thought that a democratically controlled and publicly owned economy would be meta? does have a nasty dlc policy tho)
  • Partisans 1941 (you play the story of soviet partisans on the eastern front, what more is there to say?)
  • everything from the studio “Kremlingames” (they make political sims about eastern block countries, without glorifying them)
  • Workers & Resources: Soviet Republic (eastern block “City: Skylines”)
  • VA-11 Hall-A (good vn in a cyberpunk dystopia, does not rly have a political theme tho iirc)
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Missing Tetris!

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Sure but does it need that money when it’s released or is it simply there because of publisher greed?

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No, games require labor to develop.

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The capital pays for the labour, unless you have people who can work for free.

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Within the confines of capitalism I would probably agree. But under socialism, production happens independently of capital accumulation.

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Capital doesn’t cease to exist under communism, guy. It just stops being controlled by one person.

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Yes, it gets mismanaged by central government

👏…👏…👏

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Stardew Valley

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Minecraft

Terraria

Astrox Imperium (this is a single player version of EvE Online, so definitely not for everyone)

Dyson Sphere Program

Factorio

UFO:AI (admittedly this is a FOSS XCOM game that started as a clone of XCOM Apocalypse, and morphed into something bigger)

All developed by either a single person, or tiny teams with basically no start up capital. I’m sure I can find more, since the FOSS list of games is enormous.

Labor develops society. Capital enshittifies society.

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Capital is dead labor, which, vampire-like, lives only by sucking living labor, and lives the more, the more labor it sucks

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You can get that money back by making a good game and charge for it, no need for dark pattern and lootboxes.

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If you’re not trolling you’re stupid af

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What about it?

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It’s great! But seriously, meant to reply to another comment…

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I really tried to like it for years. Bought it on suggestion from a friend. Couldn’t enjoy a game that has a timer constantly dictating what I do and how I do it, had the same problem with Bully. Great game, if I was given free reign of my own actions instead of a time-limited version.

Also, I’m getting a bit tired of pixel graphics, been looking at them for the better part of 30 years. Time to move on.

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If you bought it on PC, you can mod it to change the length of day settings. Made cave exploring much more enjoyable for me.

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Can I mod better graphics in?

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Everything is inherently political when you really boil it down.

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Politics is a branch of philosophy about how societies should be governed. If you want to make a social commentary that is non political, you would have to avoid mentioning how society is or should be run. Also, how people should organise together.

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“The love of money is the root of all kinds of enshitification.” --Jesus Christ (Probably)

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Pretty much.

"No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money” (Matthew 6:24).

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Republicans: I’m gonna serve money to god

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God I’d love some money.

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The thing is: If everyone hated it, it would not work. But sadly it DOES work.

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Lootboxes are legalized gambling for minors. So yeah, no shit it works. Just because a thing is profitable doesn’t make it good. The opioid epidemic proved very profitable, but just like gambling for kids, doesn’t make it a thing we should accept or want for our society.

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I did not say or try to imply that it’s good. I said sadly it works. With emphasis on SADLY.

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Fair enough, I’m certainly not about to disagree on the profitability of gambling (for the house specifically).

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Well, theres “working” and theres “working well”. Capitalism is not working so well anymore and its likely going to work worse as time goes on. more things will become automated, wealth inequality (and therefore a gap in political power) will grow, and companies will keep expecting increased growth in a world of limited(and in some cases, decreasing) resources. Capitalism currently “works” in the sense that its making resources move around, but thats about all its doing for regular, non rich, non well off people(and often is not doing even that much for them). It’s simply not sustainable when unregulated, thats why we need a well regulated economy.

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