Bubba Copeland shot himself in front of police on Friday, days after he begged 1819 News not to expose his private life.

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I love what John Oliver said on his segment about I believe Lindsay Graham.

Paraphrasing, he could have helped usher in the change that would have made his lifestyle more acceptable and more inclusive. But he wanted power.

These people choose to be a Republican. They choose to associate with a party that is actively trying to eliminate the very people they are and the sad thing is that they think they are the exception. They think the party will accept them.

And the hard, harsh truth is that they are only accepted so long as it’s convenient. I think he knew this and that’s why he chose to end his life.

It’s sad that he felt he had to do that. But I’m not holding my breath for the GOP to say that they learned a lesson from it.

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Being a mayor of a small town and being a US Senator or even House Rep are two very different things. It is very likely that, despite being Republican, he did nothing to further Republicanism with the power that he did have.

Most of the time, mayors really just do small town mayor shit like approving a tree to be cut down or asking the state for a road to be fixed. They’re not usually involved with politics in the way Lindsey fucking Graham is.

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He also apparently did not have overt anti-LGBTQIA+ values, beyond being a member of the GOP.

Yes and (?) was never antisemitic, beyond being member of the nazi party. (???)

If you are part of a party that stands STAUNCHELY against queers, you don’t deserve solidarity for being queer.

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You can blame that on the US’s bipartisan system rather than the multiparty system it is supposed to be.

What other option would he have, the democrats? What if there are things that they did he didn’t agree with either? 3rd party is out the window because it would take minimum 2 elections to get their candidate in office.

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Oh no, poor guy had literally no choice but to participate in a corrupt system by going into politics and becoming a mayor 😭

Get the fuck outta here.

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Plenty of options. Didn’t have to be a shaman, didn’t have to live in a sheit tier state, didn’t have to run for public office, didn’t have to support the GOP. He went up to the leopard and screamed “eat my face”.

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Yeah that’s a fair point

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Would you blame a secret jew for jojning yhe Nazi party if that was a way of keep away from a concentration camp?

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i guess not, good point

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Was this guy at threat for being queer in America?

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Stop white washing this shithead. He was a horrible person who was perfectly fine persecuting others BUT THE FUCKING IMSTANT IT CAME BACK ON HIM HE OFFED HIMSELF.

THIS WAS NOT A GOOD PERSON, CLOSET LGBTQ OR NO.

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You got a source for that, besides simply being a member of the GOP in s location where there is no plausible alternative?

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There are plenty of Democrats in Alabama. He didn’t have to run for public office.

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no plausible alternative?

Are you kidding me!? “He had to be part of the anti-LGBTQ party because of where he lived”. Fuck out of here with that nonsense. I deleted my longer comment, let me sum it to for you:

  • He didn’t have to live in Alabama
  • He didn’t have to be part of the anti-LGBTQ+ (or any) party
  • He didn’t have have to run for political office
  • He didn’t have to engage in crossdressing

If any of those conflict with each other, well; life is about choices. Anything less is cowardice.

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If you choose to part of an organization dedicated to dominance at other’s expense you’re not a good person.

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He was not forced to be a GOP.

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besides simply being a member of the GOP in s location where there is no plausible alternative

You know that democrats do live in Alabama, right?

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You got a source for ur bullshit? No alternative?? Lmfao ok yeah right.

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*She was a horrible person.

*SHE OFFED HERSELF.

ftfy

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Cross dresser != Trans

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This person never called or asked anyone to call them she. What the fuck are u even talking about? Get a grip.

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But the rest of the small minded fucks in his small minded town who were laughing and pointing? And the asshole who outed him? Now THAT’S a different story, and I hope their laughter becomes a curse to them.

How many of those are also hiding their sexuality/gender just because of the same reasons that you mentioned?

Im sorry for the guy that shot himself, but he was part of the problem. It doesn’t matter the reason why someone is a church goer, Trump supporter, one less of them is always good.

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Also a pastor, “shot himself in front of police during a welfare check.” It also appears that his wife was aware and involved with the hobby (not with the suicide), presumably in a supporting way.

I may disagree very strongly with this guy’s politics, but fuck the assholes who make this shameful.

@Poutinetown quotes from the article:

… even though it does not appear [Copeland] had taken any public positions against LGBTQ issues that could be construed as hypocritical.

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These are the assholes who make it shameful.

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Leopard face eating moment

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This is a rare example of the leopard eating its own face!

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Sadly this is a prime example.

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The blog reported that Copeland, a Republican, confirmed that the accounts were run by him, saying they were a “hobby” he used for “getting rid of stress.” 1819 News reported that Copeland asked them to not out him, but they did so anyway, even though it does not appear he had taken any public positions against LGBTQ issues that could be construed as hypocritical.

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even though it does not appear he had taken any public positions against LGBTQ issues that could be construed as hypocritical.‘’

Being GOP and anywhere on the LGBTQIA spectrum is inherently hypocritical.

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'Ol Bubba knew the wolves would turn on him.

But anyway, what is with this. Is it that this secretive cross-dressing thing seems correlated with repressed sexual desires or what?

JCS covered that one Canadian colonel serial killer who would cross-dress, sneaking into women’s homes.

Then I just watched this 48 Hours case about a dad who killed his son after they found pictures of him cross-dressing and literally eating his own shit.

Wtf?

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People tend to sexualize the taboo. In a society where gender is seen as set in stone and comes with a bunch of stupid bullshit like what clothes it’s socially acceptable to wear some people will sexualize violating the taboos

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Alright, not gonna lie that last one threw me for a loop.

Pretty sure it was the last part that caused him to do that, I think the gap between crossdressing and scatophagy (is that a word yet?) is pretty far.

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Yeah I want a world where nobody is persecuted for this, even pieces of shit.

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You’d think some empathy would be in order. However, judging from the comments made on the bird website, many people are actually proud of this happening.

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This is tragic but I feel like shaking the people trying to shame or guilt the ones who outed and ridiculed the Mayor.

“Are you happy now?”

Yes, of course they are. The cruelty is the point.

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Do we know if he was anti-trans? It’s super sad that he had to actually kill himself because he couldn’t be himself. The GOP has created a really shitty life for a lot of people.

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He’s conservative and even had a meeting with Trump. That’s the worst of it I think, he was ok with persecuting trans people till he was outed.

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To be fair, being trans is not the same as being a crossdresser.

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Seriously? I sincerely didn’t know that. Do you mind explaining the difference?

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That’s fair, it’s still sad though.

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Did you even read the article? It’s specifically says that he was supportive of trans people.

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I feel pity for this person, they deserved better.

That said. You cannot be supportive of LGBT people, and vote for the Republican party. Republicans are quite openly hostile to LGBT people, both in rhetoric and in policy. You can’t say you are supportive of a group while voting to strip them of their legal recognitions and protections.

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For some people, there are only ever two sides, one all good, one all bad and there can not be people in-between or on each side that aren’t 100% a walking trope integrated with all traits of the “side”. It’s quite sad really.

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The trump meeting was because his town was badly hit in a natural disaster, not necessarily something that he would have sought kut

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Reading other articles it seems like no, he was generally very positive and encouraging to others online. The impression I get (from 10 minutes of reading, not saying this conclusively) is that he was not overtly hostile whatsoever to trans people.

There are enormous social pressures in small conservative towns, and the man was 63. I can imagine life leading someone otherwise pro-trans into being a republican preacher in that environment. An awful tragedy

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This. People are complicated, even when it is inconvenient.

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it does not appear he had taken any public positions against LGBTQ issues that could be construed as hypocritical

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Except for being a member of the anti LGBTQ party.

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Yeah, but so is Caitlyn Jenner…

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I would imagine that becoming mayor in certain parts of the country is much easier if you’re a member of the dominant party in the region.

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You can disagree with your party on one issue. There are tons of Democrats who are opposed to increased gun control, for example.

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The GOP has created a really shitty life for a lot of people.

It’s a feature, not a bug.

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He was a Baptist minister too…

I don’t think many of them preach acceptance of LGBT

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Some do. It’s just correlation because low church denominations like Baptists suit rural areas more than being at the behest of a large denom.

https://www.parkroadbaptist.org/

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He was a Republican so yes he voted repeatedly to hurt LGBTQ people AS LONG AS IT WASNT HIM

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If you read the article, it said, about halfway through, that he never spoke up on LGBTQ issues despite being a Republican.

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It says he hasn’t posted or supported anything publicly so he wasn’t a hypocrite, he belonged to the wrong party though, I do feel bad for his family because he doesn’t seem to be a right wing asshole

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Could have just said he’s a conservative.

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This comment section is hilarious. Some people are praising his suicide simply because he was a part of the republican party, while others are saying that “no one deserves being bullied for being trans” yet what everyone seems to miss is this guy was a grade A pervert who was posting pictures of real children in his transition fetish memes that he posted online. He also stalked a local business woman and wrote erotica about taking over her life and becoming her through hormones and surgery then murdering her and replacing her. A real woman btw.

So much cognitive dissonance in this thread and I’m here for it.

Read up what he did here https://1819news.com/news/item/to-say-i-was-a-stalker-would-be-a-bit-of-an-understatement-curvy-transgender-smiths-station-mayor-copeland-wrote-fiction-about-murdering-real-life-local-businesswoman-assuming-her-identity

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You posted the same article multiple times in this thread. I don’t know that magazine but Wikipedia says about the source

1819 News is an American far-right[1] news website that focuses on the state of Alabama.

Aren’t there more trustworthy articles than a far right news site?

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Yeah, it’s a right wing propaganda rag. I wouldn’t trust them reporting the weather without somehow blaming liberals and lgbtq.

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The OP buried the lede intentionally or unintentionally. Dude was a grade A creeper and a psycho.

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You clearly did not look hard enough in this thread. Plenty of people say he got what he deserved for being a republican.

He was definitely terrible and I’m not trying to defend him, but What’s your horse in this race?

I have no horse in this race. Just discussing a piece of news on a discussion forum.

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Right. As if pointing out obvious ignorance is all of a sudden a Personal thing. Good job, bro, I saw the value in your comment.

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Dead POS. Good.

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You probably shouldn’t read Steven King with that logic. Fiction is fiction. Unless you want to punish for a thoughtcrime.

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He wrote it about a real woman in the area without her consent. You are being a sexual harassment apologist.

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It is sexual harassment?

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because he holds public office and is posting pictures of children to porn sites and stalking local women? Do you not think public officials should have their disgusting misdeeds documented?

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I think it’s worthwhile to question an unknown outlet. If it’s a tabloid level rag then perhaps I should doubt the pilling on, if any of the smear worthy stuff might be fabricated.

No matter the outlet, if the material is accurate, then yes it’s reasonable. However we always have to be wary of folks outright making up stuff.

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article doesn’t say anything about child porn. I’m thinking it’s a bullshit conservative “news” site muddying the waters.

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I think it happens a lot more than 1819 posts about it.

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The Left:

  1. Slurs are bad
  2. Transphobia is bad
  3. Ableism is bad
  4. Restorative justice is better than retributive justice
  5. Move people left
  6. Disregard points 1-5
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The right:

  1. Hate everything that isn’t them.
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How convenient that everybody who disagrees with you is a lying cartoon.

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Here’s somebody who disagrees with me, promoting ethnic cleansing.

Have fun no-true-scottsmanning them

https://lemm.ee/comment/5780085

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“I don’t know what leftism is”

just ledditor things 🙄

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Online Leftists love gatekeeping as soon as they need to gatekeep a slightly different leftist. They’re all over social media.

I could throw you some Twitter links for Leftists attacking another Leftist and making fun of her drug addiction and autism, if you want it.

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Stfu with your dumbass propaganda.

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I found a Leftist promoting ethnic cleansing right here.

https://lemm.ee/comment/5780085

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