I think that it will not be waged between North and South for state rights, but rather between Republicans and Democrats for human rights. It will happen before our 250th anniversary in 2026.
No. Absolutely not.
- No defined or contiguous territory - The Dem/GOP split is more rural vs urban than state vs state. Sure, you have “blue states” and “red states” but except for MA, FL, etc, the distinction is usually built on 10% of a state’s population.
- Few people are that interested - You need a substantial number of people on both sides ready to murder the other over culture war BS. People are more angry at the culture war BS itself.
- Police and military ideas have changed - Modern policing didn’t even exist until the late 1800’s. A large, pre-existing volunteer Federal military (vs militia) is also pretty new.
- War sucks - One thing about being involved in lots of stupid wars abroad. No one wants to see that here.
But that all said, there will be more violence. It just won’t look like war. It’ll look like more Jan 6th coups, BLM protests, domestic terrorism, etc.
I don’t think it will devolve to a shooting war like 150 years ago, mainly because ordinary Americans have too much going on to want to send the army to preserve the Union. I can see the Conservative states saying “Do things our way or we’re leaving!” And the rest of the country saying “Bye! Good luck running a country without our tax revenue!”
I definitely do get the feeling Liberal/Left Americans (inb4 “liberals arent leftists!!!,” true but the particular issues I’m referencing are things liberals and leftists mostly agree on) and Conservative Americans have different, incompatible, moral systems where a compromise can’t be reached.
I think it’s possible but not probable. It’s not like we’re already seeing widespread squabbles or serious secession talk (ultimately I don’t think the war would be fought on state lines but I do think secession talk would start happening before war breaks out.) Then again something like Trump getting put behind bars could change everything.
This is the plot of Empire by Orson Scott Card
What is it with you lot with your obsession and fixation on rights? Why do you want the government to dictate your thoughts and actions so much?
Why do you want the government to dictate your thoughts and actions so much?
I want the government to protect me from the dumb fucks that actually do want the government to dictate how I should live my life. It’s the pieces of human garbage that want to tell men they can’t marry another man, that tell women they don’t have autonomy over their own body, that want to stop the teaching of the theory of evolution and include prayer in school, that want to dictate others’ lives.
Those calling for more rights aren’t asking for the government to dictate anyone’s lives. They’re literally doing the opposite of that.
Enforcing policy is dictating lives though, how about just use a different name for marriage and do a different ritual? Unless that’s only if you actually only care for inheritance laws.
Giving trans people the right to healthcare only affects their lives. So tell me again how this terrible government overreach occurs when we say “you can’t make laws to restrict someone’s freedom”?
You can’t, because it doesn’t.
how about just use a different name for marriage and do a different ritual?
So you want a separate name and ritual for people who aren’t like you want them to be, and expect everyone to believe that it will be equal?
No. Everyone knows how “separate but equal” pans out in the “equal” department.
It’s not an infringement of your rights to stop you from beating/killing people you don’t like. It’s not an infringement of your rights to allow others to do things you don’t want to do yourself.
