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Elon Musk could have actually done something for humanity and build two of those instead of buying Twitter.

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Dude literally owns a boring company, he could have ate the cost of digging the tunnel to specifications and still have more money than buying xitter

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Yea but his boring company isn’t particularly useful for anything other than stymieing public transportation programs by acquiring contracts with cities and then doing nothing with them. Almost like he has an interest in selling more cars than expand public transit… allegedly.

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Yeah but where is the short term ego boost in that? He needs his dopamine NOW!

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And he’s driven the value down below the price of one collider. He’s lost an entire super collider!

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You may not realize this, but the twitter money still exists. The former owners of twitter have it under their mattress right now, why don’t they build a supercollider?

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I agree, those dicks definitely could be doing better with their money and we should take it away from them for societally useful things.

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31 points

I disliked the truth of what you wrote so much, I initially downvoted you.

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I mean we all know this, but if he wants his “brand” to be “Mr. Nerd Shit” why tf does he miss such obvious Ws?

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There’s a reason he lost that brand years ago

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51 points

Upkeep might be expensive, but 22 billion is probably lower bound estimation, highly likely to 5x that at least

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So, we’ll need to kill fewer brown children to pay for it?

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This is Switzerland you’re talking about, they make money when people get killed

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That would be too hard, but we can just try and save some money on useless things and if people don’t accept cutting benefits just raise the interest rates, all of them are underwater anyway

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Man, that’s just not in the budget. How am I supposed to scratch my need-to-kill-brown-kids itch without the taxpayer money we specifically set aside for this purpose?

What kind of absurd ideas are you gonna come up with next? No more instigating strife in the middle east? Pah! Not on my watch!

/s

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Pff the UK is spending that on a 70 mile railway thats going to be slower than the one already there, already spent nearly 2x the projected FCC budget on just 6 miles of the fucking thing.

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Maybe the government should spend less on avocado toast.

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21 points

Fucking hell, we can’t get a tramway for 10b CAD around here and a 12km tunnel under a river was going to cost half a 100km collider 😐

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The problem is a train needs to transport humans, whereas the collider just needs to transport teeny tiny particles and keep a receipt of their arrival.

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The particle collider also doesn’t need to ensure the safety of the particles. Frankly, if it did it would be a rather shitty collider.

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19 points

First rule in government spending: why build one when you can have two at twice the price?

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13 points

I don’t remember where I heard that science is super cheap, but I did not belive it first. Some time later I see that it is.

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I guess everything is relative.

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The US has given 4 times that to Ukraine. That’s 2/3rds the budget of NASA.

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That’s actually surprising that NASA only has 50% more budget than a single particle accelerator, given the huge number of cutting edge projects NASA is working on.

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12 points

Only about half a penny of every federal tax dollar goes to NASA.

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5 points

This is one-time vs recurring payment

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Money spent fighting a morally justifiable war with Russia that we aren’t actually having to fight is money well spent IMO.

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A million people dead. Money well spent. Thanks

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They have mostly given stuff they weren’t going to use anymore worth that amount when bought new.

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How many people has the moon killed? Cuz Russia has killed tens of thousands. They’ve lost on the order of 250k of their own guys, and probably inflicted roughly the same numbers on the AFU.

The moon doesn’t kill old ladies sitting in their apartment.

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This initial budget estimate is 44x the 500M initial estimate of the jwst for comparison. Jwst eventually ballooned to 20B, but I’m guessing this would similarly balloon over time as well.

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Budget: Military Complex > CERN

Long term value to citizens: CERN > Miltary Complex

All historical CERN expenses combined are a tiny fraction of the yearly expenses of the combined EU miltary

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But particles don’t make my dick feel big

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Even quarks aren’t that small.

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They call me quark cause I’m always down to top and up to bottom and I’m charmingly strange. Also I’m very very small

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Seems like you’re just not using them creatively enough

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10 points

Hold a particle in your hand first, then your dick. The relative difference will make your dick seem at least ten times bigger!

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OMG. This might be my favorite burn ever!!

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That’s because you’re using them wrong!

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US Congress: Audit NASA > Audit the Pentagon

EU: Audit CERN > Audit Luxemborg/Malta/UK

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I’m just amazed that funding $22 billion is even an issue when the project is being backed by the EU, and partially the US, since we never built ours…

That’s a rounding error for both entities

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Guys, the trick is to get it partially built and then cancel funding. Then scientists will never trust you to fund anything ever again, and you get to act like science is a waste of money while you’re spending ridiculous sums on fighter jets.

Yes, I am still bitter about Waxahatchie.

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Having the corpse of the Supercollider Superconductor in my backyard growing up (not literally) makes me wonder what could have been if the US wasn’t so shortsighted.

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It would be badass if it was literally

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With all the development around Waxahachie, Midlothian, and Ennis, There’s a very good chance that many backyards are now built over the loop’s proposed path.

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It’s really sad as a clear landmark on the map of the US’s descent into scientific irrelevancy on the world stage.

“If there was demand, the market would have built it!”

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He’s a great video documentary about it by Bobby Broccoli if you want information and have two hours.

https://youtu.be/3xSUwgg1L4g

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“A US-Japanese trade mission where SSC funding was supposed to be discussed ended in the George H. W. Bush vomiting incident.” LOL

TIL as well and have been to waxahatchie without knowing.

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Wow, thanks to that article TIL about the George H. W. Bush vomiting incident

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I would have loved for the SSSC to have been built as well. It probably wouldn’t have found the highs boson till 2010 or maybe as early as 2009. The computer technology of the 90s would have severely limited the things ability to be understood. CERN creates GB of data per second. I can’t imagine what that thing would have done, and then we need to be able to process that much so we can filter out the noise.

I was 12 when it was announced that they weren’t gonna finish buildt it, and even though I was just a kid in IN, something shattered for me that day. That was almost as bad as watching Challenger.

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I think we realized halfway through building that we couldn’t build bombs.

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That project put my dad out of business. Government gave him (part of) the contract, he did a bunch of work for years and then poof, project gone, not gonna pay you for it.

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I was looking for this comment lol

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This is cheaper than two super carriers.

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Yeah, but how many brown children can it kill?

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If you ask the scientists in my local Facebook group, it could kill all of them. That is, the ones not already killed by vaccines and 5G.

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It confirmed lyrics true that 100% of vaccinated people will die.

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The feds give the states more than $16b per year to build and run shitty, custom made IT systems for their Medicaid programs. It’s basically a subsidy to IT companies. There are thousands of examples like this, where spending money on fundamental science is clearly a better investment.

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I was kind of thinking that $22 billion really doesn’t seem like that much money for a project like this.

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This fucks, way better use of 22 billion dollars than usual

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But we could kill kids in the middle east somewhere for that money!

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Physics class: “Imagine a perfectly spherical cow moving on a frictionless surface…”

IDF physics class: “Imagine a perfectly spherical bomb moving towards a frictionless Palestinian hospital…”

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Just toss the middle east kids in the super collider.

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But that will puts dents in the super collider. Then we will need another super collider.

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