10 points

Trigger locks are not hard to get and are inexpensive.

I’m iffy on more gun control, but if there is something I’d want to do, it’d be requiring businesses to provide a trigger lock with each sale.

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14 points

The average American is too dumb to own guns and I say this from a household with several guns. Seriously would rather not have them if that means idiots and the mentally unstable don’t either.

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Who is smart enough to own guns then? Solely the government?

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2 points

as an American I barely trust myself around knives

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1 point

Such a rare opinion to see today.

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1 point

Spot on. Pretty much the only reason I carry. Never know when some d bag is going to start blasting the local grocery store.

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9 points

…it’d be requiring businesses to provide a trigger lock with each sale.

Pretty much is in the State of California. This is yet another instance of someone not following the basic god damned rules of firearm safety.

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6 points

You can only do so much to encourage gun safety, but when you get to this point I think it’s only fitting to charge the gun owner with a felony and forbid them from ever owning a firearm again.

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1 point

I’m pretty sure that’s already a law.

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1 point

Shit when I bought my pistol it friggin came WITH a trigger lock.

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14 points

Reputable gun shops provide them free of charge w/ every sale.

/gun collector

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Every gun I’ve bought came with a cable lock. They are a waste though as would be a required trigger lock. I prefer different and more reliable storage methods.

And just because something came in the box doesn’t mean it is going to be used correctly. Especially if someone doesn’t like that way of securing a firearm. A better way is probably just some PSAs and tax breaks for security/storage devices to encourage proper storage. If there are going to be these things in every box give me a way to return them or something.

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3 points

With a 3 year old, even just emptying the gun would have been effective. Or putting it in heights

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125 points

That wouldn’t have happened if the 1-year-old had a gun 🤔

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You saying this in this scenario is the reason why we’re so divided. You try to pervert fair arguments and make them seem absurd.

These are not the issues the democrats are targeting in wanting to solve when they want to ban semi-autos, and you know it.

If the 3 yo instead stabbed the 1 year old, would that make a difference? Should we start banning household knives?

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want to ban semi-autos, and you know it.

I say F the 2nd. And it was gun rights advocates who radicalized me, not Democrats.

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Okay, well until we as a country determine that the constitution needs amending and we want to repeal the 2nd amendment, it’s the constitution that is the most important part of the law that every state must abide by.

I like that you didn’t respond to the rest of my comment that showed how stupid yours was. What do you think of the criticism I had for your comment, do you just want to ignore my points of

  1. You’re strawmanning the argument
  2. This isn’t the scenario’s the democrats are targeting when they want to ban AR’s.
  3. If a different weapon was used, do you think it’s a good argument to ban said weapon?
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Is a pump-action shotgun not an armament? A bolt-action rifle? A revolver? I’m fine with an 18yo buying one of these. You want something more powerful then show you’re responsible enough to own it.

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Whats the “fair argument”? You need more guns to prevent more shootings? Do you realise how dumb this is?

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That in a case of self defense, I’d rather have a gun.

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I don’t hear a lot about 3-year-olds stabbing 1-year-olds. I do hear a lot about toddlers getting guns and shooting other kids…

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If the 3 yo instead stabbed the 1 year old, would that make a difference? Should we start banning household knives?

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26 points

Or if the family lived almost anywhere else in the world.

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49 points

American solution: put the 3yo in prison for forced labour and arm all 1 year olds so they can defend themselves.

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Gun manufacturers: heavy breathing

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Use the 3 year olds in prison to make the guns for the 1 year olds to arm themselves! Fuckin bang two for one.

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Not really

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4 points

Then send thoughts and prayers when it happens over and over again. We’ve done nothing to fix the problem and there’s nothing we can do about it!

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the 2 common culprits in all these horrible stories are: 1) human stupidity 2) gun proliferation. solving the first would require eugenism. solving the second is a big american no-no. So don’t call it horrible, just live with it. It’s just a normal by-product of american culture.

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IMHO solving 1 needed educations, but that’s also a big American no-no, so we’re back to square one.

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IMHO solving 1 needed educations, but that’s also a big American no-no

No it’s not. For all of their ills, stupidity, nonsense, fraud, and extremely questionable decisions the NRA does run education campaigns with their “Eddie Eagle” program. A big problem is that it has been kicked out of schools, especially schools in Blue States, so they’re unable to reach one of the audiences that need it the most.

It’s like Red States kicking Sex Education out of schools and being shocked at teen pregnancies. Education works far better than restriction. Always.

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it has been kicked out of schools

So, as @Ichi_matsu@ttrpg.network said, it’s a big no-no for Americans.

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Yeah, I’m not sure eugenics is ever the answer

Wtf?

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Solving the first would require the end of human existence. You can’t breed out stupidity, eugenics doesn’t solve anything.

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Why would the gun be loaded? At the very least the gun and the ammo should be separated.

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Most gun safety in America is optional.

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The better question is why was a handgun needed? People shouldn’t buy deadly weapons for fun.

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Anything is a deadly weapon in the right situation.

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Most people buy a handgun like that for self-defense. Likely because they don’t expect the cops to show up and protect them. And there isn’t anything wrong with owning something dangerous if it’s property secured and used safely. These parents were negligent.

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Not if your concerned about personal safety. I don’t live in the best neighborhood. So the time to slide in 12ga rounds might cost me my life.

https://youtu.be/AItWcBU-NEA?t=238

All my others are in safes and the ammo is not easily accessible.

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You are 100% correct but that loops is back to #1.

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Separating ammo isn’t actually securing the firearm though. Loaded or unloaded it should still be property secured. And you can safely store a fire loaded if the firearm is actually in some kind of safe. The parents were simply negligent.

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Clearly we need to arm 1 year olds so they can defend themselves

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