The New York State Board of Elections is opting to wait for the courts to rule on the eligibility of former President Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign, signaling that the board would be open to taking his name off state ballots.
In a November 3 letter, the NYSBOE informed U.S. District Judge Glenn Suddaby that the state agency is taking “no position” in the matter of Trump’s candidacy and that it will “abide by any orders of judgements of the court.”
The best case scenario for everybody (except maybe Trump) is if Trump was removed from the primary ballots in every state.
Trump doesn’t want to do the job. He didn’t even try to do the job the last time he had it. At this point, his main reason for running is to stay out of prison.
Only because he now realizes it’s possible. I think his main reason is that he thinks losing anything makes him weak and he wants to prove he’s not weak. Trump has only ever really cared about one thing: his image. Even his personal freedom and money come second to that, I’d bet.
I don’t know that there is a best case for “everybody” at this point.
If Trump is blocked from running we will be hearing from his cult for the rest of time - and they will turn around and try to do this to others as payback (like they are doing with impeachment).
If Trump dies of a heart attack he becomes a martyr.
I think the best case is that he looses the primary. This might keep the Rs together as a party (sigh) but at least it will be their choice and maybe we can all move forward from there.
If Trump looses on the general we have another round of sore losers whining and trying to destroy democracy some more. Regardless of how that fight goes every day of it diminishes the country and boost in intensity would be bad.
If he wins the general election the country is SO very fucked — welcome to your new authoritarian apartheid anti-freedom etc state. At least that is their stated goal and it’s gonna be a horrible country damaging battle.
All of this is Rs and Trumps (MAGAs) fault. And they’re continuing to take the initiatives. I don’t have a broad strategy in mind so I’m ok with fighting them at each of these levels.
If Trump is blocked from running we will be hearing from his cult for the rest of time - and they will turn around and try to do this to others as payback (like they are doing with impeachment).
Yes, I think this is the best case scenario. The 14th Amendment is actually upheld. One of the other GOP candidates get to win the primary. This is their best outcome. The MAGA public gets to continue to whine and complain, which is clearly what they want more than anything. The Democrats get to win the election over the demoralized MAGA crowd. And everybody, whether MAGA or sane, gets to benefit from having competent politicians running the federal government.
I think the best case is that he looses the primary.
Yes, it is almost the same as my best case. The big difference to me, and I think this is important, is that the US Constitution is actually followed in my best case scenario.
A lot of liberals think the best case scenario is for Trump to lose in the general election. This seems like the third best outcome to me.
I agree with you that we absolutely don’t want Trump to die. I think that would be a worst case scenario. I actually think that the best overall scenario (not just talking about the election now) is if the Dems keep the WH and Senate, and take over the House, however that happens, and that Trump lives quite a long time. Because Trump has been amazing at reducing the number of young people who become Republican. The longer he’s alive, but out of power, the weaker the GOP becomes, long term.
If Trump is blocked from running we will be hearing from his cult for the rest of time
It doesn’t matter what happens we will be hearing from them for the rest of time.
I think him dying from a heart attack will not make him a martyr. He eats like shit and is in poor shape. Not everyone would believe it, but not so many that would be a problem. Like the dude is in the age bracket where it could happen and not be too surprising.
I think you underestimate his how many would believe. I don’t think MAGA types care about facts or health related statistics — all of which are signs of the liberal elite. Given the chance I think they’d make a martyr out of him just for spite.
I predict he will ultimately not be removed from any ballot in any state, even if the Supreme Court has to intervene.
even if the Supreme Court has to intervene.
You’re absolutely right, and it would a total reversal of the courts conservative movement towards states rights.
Is there a chance that he’d win any of the states that are threatening to take him off the ballot?
Are there any other repercussions (other than not getting votes) to being excluded from some state ballots?
This is the least newsworthy article ever. Literally everyone would abide by a court order to remove him or otherwise abide by the laws to include him if he meets the qualifications.
Does this really matter? Are not the swing states the ones that actually decide the president?
Still would deny him Electoral College votes from those states. So yes, it counts.
I don’t think NY splits electoral votes. To get any NY electoral votes, he’d have to carry the whole state.
Will this leave him off the ballot for the primary? He is expected to win the primary and this will pump the numbers for another GOP candidate. If enough states do this, it could give the convention the cover to select someone else.
seems like a pretty optimistic take for ‘we’re waiting for everyone else to decide first’
