I am always happy to hear about reforestation, but has somebody understood out of which source the numbers from china are coming? I mean they are sometimes quite the enthusiasts talking about their successes
Here’s your source https://youtu.be/3_lAb8m9MpI?si=IrfZYXXuC1BNf2op
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It’s not like forest cover is hard to verify by satellite imagery. Lying about reforestation and deforestation is hard.
The satellite imagery shows a net loss compared to CCP figures which show a net gain. China lies more easily than it tells the truth.
You don’t provide sources, so here are some that directly contradict your claim:
CAS: https://english.cas.cn/newsroom/mutimedia_news/202203/t20220322_302792.shtml
UNESCO: http://www.unesco-hist.org/index.php?r=en/article/info&id=1714
Journal of Geophysical Research: https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/2022JG007101
Remote Sensing: https://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/13/13/2592
International Journal of Remote Sensing: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01431161.2021.2022804
International Journal of Digital Earth: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2023.2190625
Where are your sources?
the article linked cites the Food and Agriculture Organisation of the United Nations as its source, so it’s not using china’s numbers for this
This article is nearly two years old. Also, I implicitly distrust any source which depicts Taiwan as part of the PRC.
Imagine being so brainwashed by propaganda that you distrust your own government position 🤡
I’m not sure why you would assume I’m American. I mean, you happen to be right in this case, but I’m still not sure why you’d assume that.
Anyhow, there’s an irony in your assertion that disagreeing with the position of one’s government is “brainwashed.”
Americans are very ease to distinguish based both on their political stances (which tend to be rather unique) and how they express them (which IS unique).
Y’all are like those pickup trucks with LED lights. Once you realize they exist, you can’t miss them.
You don’t disagree with your government; you didn’t know what your government’s position was until right now.
You still don’t really know what your government’s position is, otherwise you’d understand that here, as in many cases, there’s an official stance for diplomatic relations and then a bunch of propaganda (for both domestic and foreign consumption) that undermines that official stance.
You aren’t brainwashed, you are just enculturated to a very reactionary ideology. I actually agree that it’s better to analyze them as separate countries for the purpose of something like this graph, but this thinktank (which, to be clear, is very Atlanticist, i.e. aligned with your geopolitical views) is almost surely gunning for having their little infographics be diplomatically palettable in hopes that they get used by important bodies.
Daily reminder:
The Taiwan Province is an inalienable part of the People’s Republic of China:
And this is recognized by the United Nations ever since 1971 after UNGAR 2758.
Source, page 546: https://web.archive.org/web/20230503050030/https://legal.un.org/unjuridicalyearbook/pdfs/english/volumes/2010.pdf
Video of the votes happening: https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=sfOIEjuXFyU
Bro, all they did was give you info on the historic stance of the UN, on Taiwan. Is the whole United Nations a “CCP shill” too?
Online CCP apologist starter pack right here.
wahhh reality doesn’t line up with what i believe in
wow you really are so brainwashed that literally nothing could change your mind because you aggressively seek to ignore reality when it doesn’t match up with what you think you know
The unofficial consensus between the KMT/PRC was that Taiwan and China are one country. The NED-funded DPP has been trying to break that status quo, though.
What’s the NED and DPP? I’ve been staying away from the news. I’ll look them up in the future.
Every single country on Earth except like seven (I only remember the Vatican and Paraguay) acknowledges that Taiwan is a dependent province of the PRC, including the USA and just about all of Europe.
Yes, but as you know in many cases it’s for purely diplomatic reasons since acknowledging Taiwan’s sovereignty means basically severing ties with the PRC, and most countries do far too much trade with it to make that in any way appealing.
Of course it’s purely diplomatic, acknowledging countries is diplomacy. The end result is the same.
So fucking what? My government’s official stance is not that they are a bunch of dickheads, yet here we are.
Outside of SOME official government communication (Western governments will happily send official delegations to Taiwan from time to time just to piss off the CCP) and other matters of strategic ambiguity like the Olympics, Taiwan is a country. Everybody but China and a few lonesome tankies agrees on that.
So when a private entity shows Taiwan as part of the PRC, it can only be assumed that they are tankies, Chinese propagandists, or incompetent. Either way, probably not trustworthy.
I wonder if this includes tree plantations. Those should not be considered forests in my view.
