The feds will still go after it as an illegal drug when presented as recreational and the will keep the stigma going on forever. Furthermore it will keep a lot of talented people out of good job opportunities for smoking a joint after work instead of having a glass of wine.

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Withdrawal can be lethal sure, but you can just overdose on them, like alcohol. They have a very simily mechanism of action to alcohol. It’s also why they’re so dangerous combined. The scheduling system has little relationship to medical reality.

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Meanwhile if you smoke too much weed you’ll have a panic attack, see God, fail asleep, and wake up with a terrible hangover. I’ve witnessed it a bunch (and experienced it myself) since the NY market is unregulated so dispensaries push 100mg+ edibles like it’s a normal amount. Hell, I’ve seen drinks with 1250mg/8oz. It’s wildly unpleasant, but way better than death.

Man, I fill with rage whenever I think about how much harm to the American public our “leadership” did with the War on Drugs just so they could have an excuse to be racist and classist

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Totally. It’s not impossible to harm yourself with weed/THC, especially if it’s in combination with certain other drugs or medications or interacting with certain health conditions. And some of the doses you can get now in the dispensaries I’ve also noticed are pretty massive. The synthetic cannibinoids are potentially more dangerous, having even more blood vessel constrictive properties than typical cannabinoids (can increase stroke and heart attack risks). But weed doesn’t hold a candle to the dangers and damage of perfectly legal alcohol or tobacco. And there’s plenty of other still illegal without a prescription but more dangerous drugs that are lower on the schedule list than relatively safer ones like marijuana and psychedelics (pretty much all schedule I).

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It is possible to eat a lethal amount of THC oil but the process of eating it would be so uncomfortable that your stomach would have to be absolutely huge and still be stuffed to the brim.

I don’t see you seeing god on just THC though, that sounds more like psychedelics and a lot of it.

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My wife was on benzos after a stint of panic attacks in the emergency room. That shit was fucking awful for her to get off of. Luckily she’s extremely strong-willed. She went from 3 Xanax a day to none in a month. Her psychiatrist laid out a plan to get her off of them. She told her what time she should take each pill and at what doses. She actually went ahead of schedule. There were a few screaming fits from the withdrawal symptoms, but she did it. It took about 3 months for her to return to normal after her last pill. It was very difficult, but she did it.

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Benzos are fucking evil, I’m so glad she was able to recover. It must have been hell

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I can’t even begin to describe how much of hell it was for her. She literally screamed that her life was a living hell like 5 times a day at one point.

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Progress in government is made in steps. Scheduling to 3 allows research. Research that will show it’s no worse than alcohol. Then we push for removal from the schedule.

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Research already shows this, there are more countries than america

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Not to mention 38 states have legalized it for medical use. What is there to study with regard to removing the legal penalties federally?

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Maybe. But there aren’t more countries than America that our government would listen to.

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Also, are there any studies supporting it being banned? As I understand it, it was a PR campaign and moral panic that lead to its ban on the first place, not anything rational.

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The research at the time said not to ban it because it is reasonably safe for consumption and banning it would cause social unrest and distrust of the government. Check out “A Signal of Misunderstanding: The First Report of the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse”, a report from a commission created by Richard Nixon with the passage of the 1969 Narcotics Act.

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I wish I could agree that we need studies to convince our rational leaders in government to make the rational actions based on available evidence, because that’s what drives changes in government.

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The best way to remove it from the schedule is to dismantle prison slave labor. Financial incentives for imprisoning people will always lead here and are immoral. However, I offer a false solution, because I don’t have a way to implement it.

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It’ll get rescheduled when Big Pharma comes up with a potion that does a better job and that they can sell for $10k per dose. So long as cannabis works better than anything they can monetize, they’ll fight to keep it illegal. And they have very deep pockets.

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Yep. That’s the real answer!

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A better job at what, getting you high? Pretty sure they already have that, and while it doesn’t net them 10k per dose the Sacklers would have liked that very much no doubt.

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A better job at treating a range of physical and mental health issues. Recreation is just a bonus.

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I think people need to actually research THC and cannabinoids. The handful of studies that have been done on them show that it’s no better than OTC medication in all but the very rarest cases.

Medical marijuana is a complete hoax, it was always about making money and getting high.

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The only reason cannabis is Schedule I is to “felonize” people who are more likely to vote against Republicans, so their right to vote can be taken away. Pharmceutical companies would frankly love for it to be descheduled, so they can research and develop it for prescription uses.

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Well, moonshine made it.

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the key bit will be whatever federal legislation allows headshops/bodegas to use the banking systems like a normal business would.

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