103 points

I mean, it’s not

It’s piracy, a different crime

A crime I love committing babyyyyyyyyyy

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38 points

We here at Futurama do not condone the cool crime of burglary.

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12 points

Yeah, when you steal something from someone then he does not have it anymore. With indefinitely replicable virtual goods that is not the case.

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3 points

They have to recoup and make roi on their r&d

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… therefore we need to build and violently enforce a legal regime to ensure that content profiteers can extract 100% profit from every transaction?

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84 points

If I steal your bicycle
you have to take the bus,
but if I just copy it
there’s one for each of us!

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28 points

im a bicycle store owner and this is so true

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31 points

I like to think this implies that people are coming into your store and cloning the bicycles

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13 points

You wouldn’t download a bicycle would you?

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7 points

And if I do neither, I have to take the bus

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5 points

So it’s all yet another conspiracy by big bus

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3 points

Normal busses are pretty big, so big bus must be very big

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-6 points

But the creator can’t afford a bike now that you copied instead of buying. So kinda bad analogy.

I pirate because it’s more convenience than having 10+ separate streaming apps, but I also don’t pretend that the monetary losses from piracy don’t trickle down.

I just don’t care. Offer me a good service please, and I’ll pay.

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9 points

You can support creative people directly. Acting like the money paid to Netflix is trickling down to them is laughable.

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5 points

Sometimes it’s really hard to do that though. Like, with most Japanese animation studios you can only buy cels from their site, it’s often all in Japanese and some studios don’t even have that.

Between marketing, producers, distribution and everything it’s become pretty damn hard to actually give the money to who you want.

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It does. The streaming services won’t order more seasons etc if ratings are shit. That new season is lots of money for the people working, from set hands to camera men, writers etc.

That said, I’ve not subscribed to any service since 2013 because none works like, say, Spotify.

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59 points

If I steal food from the store, I’m both robbing the store, and a community that would have paid good money for that food.

If I go to the store and magically have the items on the shelves be duplicated into my cart, and I don’t have to pay for them. That is not a crime that is a miracle

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Consider this. (big chain) Stores already steal from the community via profits they make.

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20 points

And while we’re on about food, look at how much the grocery stores toss out.

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-17 points

Two wrongs don’t make a right. Theft is theft.

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13 points

No, but three lefts make a right!

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Didn’t ask for your meaningless sayings that do not apply to real life

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6 points

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8 points

Exactly true, and as applied to patents: if I steal your fish you go hungry, if I watch how you fish and do the same we both eat.

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2 points

bruh

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53 points
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“Property is theft!” ~ EA

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‘I wonder who this ship belongs to anyway,’ said Arthur.

‘Me,’ said Zaphod.

‘No. Who it really belongs to.’

‘Really me,’ insisted Zaphod. ‘Look, property is theft, right? Therefore theft is property. Therefore this ship is mine, okay?’

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4 points

Just a few days ago I was re-reading the Restaurant at the end of the universe, and was going to try and look up this quote before reading the comments. I’ve really got to get around to reading the rest of the books by Douglas Adams, as I loved his hitchhiker’s guide to the Galaxy series.

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3 points

The thing I love about zephod is that he was basically the “it was me. I did it like this.” Meme before the Heavy is Dead video came out.

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0 points

Your ship is cool and all, but I’ve trained Cruise Missiles V, so fuck your ship :D

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20 points

“Fuck EA” ~ Me

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10 points

If I were asked to answer the following question: What is slavery? and I should answer in one word, It is murder!, my meaning would be understood at once. No extended argument would be required to show that the power to remove a man’s mind, will, and personality, is the power of life and death, and that it makes a man a slave. It is murder. Why, then, to this other question: What is property? may I not likewise answer, It is robbery!, without the certainty of being misunderstood; the second proposition being no other than a transformation of the first?

Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, What Is Property?

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45 points

Also if buying isn’t owning than wtf did I buy. In any other time period this corporate shit would be considered a scam.

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27 points

Also if buying isn’t owning than wtf did I buy.

“Access.” It is such a scam.

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15 points

You didn’t buy anything, we rent now…

Landlords everywhere, even on the internet… It’s disgusting. They get to own, we get to borrow…

So to OP, it’s still stealing as they own everything, we just rent. Fucking scam for sure :(

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6 points

Honestly, land should be considered a utility

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5 points

At the risk of sounding like a landlord here, there are far wealthier people to be disgusted by.

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8 points

Gates quietly buying as much arable land as he can in the world.

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3 points

False dichotomy, I’m disgusted by both.

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2 points

Yeah, I think it’s backwards to still focus our ire on “landlords” when it’s oligarch (yes, some of whom are also landlords) that are the real enemy.

In modern society, many landlords are just middle-class folks who bought an apartment building as their retirement fund.

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11 points

“YoU BoUgHt a lIcEnSe tO UsE ThE PrOdUcT”

Funny how the word license never comes up until you read the fine print. Colloquially you’re buying the product. If we’re going by legal technicalities then legally I ain’t stealing shit.

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7 points

You bought the right to give them money! :D

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4 points

You are renting the software forever, until it’s no longer supported (I’m looking at you Nintendo)

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3 points

The same thing as when you buy a movie ticket.

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0 points

If you “buy” a massage you don’t then own a massage. Lol. Doesn’t matter what time period.

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3 points

Services like massages are paying directly for someone’s active labor, buying a book, a song, or an (offline) game is one a time transaction for an already completed work

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What you’re paying for when there’s a license or other kind of agreement is more akin to a service. Like permission to use it, renting it. Paying for labor is just renting someone’s body and skills. The seller making the offer gets to determine the terms, and then you have just as much power to walk away.

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