I’m sure Xi is beyond having his feelings hurt by Biden, but just look at Bilken’s reaction lmao.

Inviting a head of state to your country to publicly insult them is unacceptable anywhere, so this is only going to further tarnish the shitty reputation of American diplomacy.

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Biden’s reason doesn’t even make any sense

Well you see here jack he’s the leader of a country with a totally different style of government than ours

Barely even paraphrasing lmfao this guy’s brain is swiss cheese

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Ehh it kinda makes sense if you agree with the idea that liberals view any deviation from Western liberalism as ontologically wrong and evil. Just jarring to see it said out loud in a diplomatic setting.

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I agree but just because the quiet part is said out loud doesn’t make it make any more sense lol

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We are moving backwards from “Capitalism is a necessary evil because of human nature” to “Capitalism is the only good form of economy”.

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Agreed. The swiss cheese holes have gotten to the tact and inhibition parts of his brain.

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Seriously. Biden just outwardly saying his definition of dictator is ‘leader not in exactly the same way as us’ is really weird.

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hitting the dog whistle and then breaking out websters dictionary

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Look, he is. He’s a dictator in the sense that he’s a guy who runs a country that is a communist country that’s based on a form of government totally different than ours,

May as well give the quote. Seems like, insofar as it has substance, it just circles back around to gommulism bad

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Gommunism bad. Being different bad.

Fukuyama end of history bullshit.

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53 points

Honestly not even mad, this is completely expected lol

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My guess is that as soon as he heard it, Xi leaned over to his aide and whispered “Looks like I owe you a beer” into their ear.

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“Look, he is. He’s a dictator in the sense that he’s a guy who runs a country that is a communist country that’s based on a form of government totally different than ours,” Biden said.

Jack going in with red scare 3.0 “it’s communism when they capitalism more than us” jfc you can’t make this up

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I think that means that America failed to get any concessions from China.

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The one thing they seemed to get was resumption of direct military to military hotlines. Not sure how useful that’s gonna be if they piss the Chinese side off though. Not hard to order the generals to pick up the phone, listen to the yank, then say “okay” and hang up.

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It’s definitely useful for when the americans are doing their stupidly fucking dangerous freedom of navigation missions through chinese territory. During these missions the US ships have to turn off various monitoring equipment among other things. It’s so fucking easy for one or the other side to misinterpret one another if they ever do something they’re not expected to do in those situations, without communication they will default to assuming the worst and that’s where it gets hairy, everyone starts shooting, and then everyone else in the region starts shooting because everyone is shooting. Launch after launch will happen because there’s no de-escalation channel or way to just say “shit that was a mistake we’re sorry” when something actually goes wrong.

Imagine when a ship gets spooked, does something unexpected, then some scrambled jets get shot down, then even more shit happens, and every single asset in the region just acts independently based on the information they have at hand (the ship/jets nearest to me just got blown up, we should release our payload into the target). It’s a huge cascade.

Communication really matters to avoid this.

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Conversely, if you know China isn’t taking your calls, you have no choice but to avoid large provocations. I think refusing the back channels and forcing US foreign policy to be all out in the open was a good tactic.

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US FONOPS are actually insane. They broke the decades-old status quo that established the Taiwan Strait as Chinese territorial waters under the CPC-KMT consensus.

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I heard they did get the Chinese to stop supplying the chemicals used to make fentanyl to Mexico. (as I understand it previously Chinese companies were selling chemicals that have legitimate and legal industrial uses in larger quantities than the legal market can support, similar to how American gun manufacturors make 40% more guns than the legal gun market can support)

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When they go low, we get high

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another excellent Afroman campaign slogan

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