The “Manifest V3” rollout is back after letting tensions cool for a year.

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Google’s sales pitch for Manifest V3 is that, by limiting extensions, the browser can be lighter on resources, and Google can protect your privacy from extension developers.

Emphases mine. Funny, I use extensions to protect my privacy from Google.

Chromium needs to be fully divested from Google. End of story. There’s too much conflict of interest in letting the world’s largest advertising company have this much control over one of the two major browsers. If you don’t see the problem with that, imagine if Taco Bell was also the world’s largest producer of anti-diarrhea medicine.

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The second being Safari, right?

Right?

…right…

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As a web developer, Safari needs to either die in a fire or be transferred to a company that actually cares. It’s more than half a decade behind everybody else.

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Tell me about it. Every time I implement some new thing in my app:

Firefox/Chrome: You cast HTML5 video. Critical hit!

Safari: Your spell fizzles…

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Yeah, when testing my sites, on the desktop at least, I don’t even bother testing in Safari. It ends up with nothing but headaches and a bunch of kludges to make things work there. Reminds me of working with IE years ago. But at least with desktop Safari, it has such a small market share that ignoring it isn’t problematic.

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Firefox gang rise up!

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sad WebKit noises

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Why would it be? Maybe if you looked at market share just for mobile devices. But on desktop it’s limited to just macOS.

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I’m mostly joking.

Mostly.

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Remember, Firefox is great and has no dependency on upstream Google code.

Use Firefox.

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Preaching to the wrong crowd there buddy, you want to be convincing the exact type of person who isn’t on Lemmy

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I’m pretty sure ad experience will move some masses, I liked Chrome because Ublock works fine there, it has great extensions support and the best compatibility with the websites, but if you remove the adblocker support I would have moved (if I hadn’t already) in a heartbeat

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The one and only, my beloved 🔥🦊

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For a while I was a bit confused, because Mozilla said they would also implement V3 Manifest …

by implementing Manifest V3 on its own terms, Mozilla saves developers who are switching to the new platform from having to support two different versions of their extensions (for Google Chrome and Firefox) at the same time. On the other hand, it allows content-blocking extensions that were originally built using the less restrictive Manifest V2 to continue working at full tilt.

https://adguard.com/en/blog/firefox-manifestv3-chrome-adblocking.html

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Firefox is my daily, but the fact I have to fire up a chromium browser to use web serial or midi is an endless annoyance. Mozilla won’t add that functionality as they see it as a security risk.

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? I’m quite positive I’ve used MIDI in Firefox on hooktheory.

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Honestly, in my opinion it kind of is (though I’m not an expert on it). Except for convenience I don’t think a browser should be allowed to access my USB devices. Though I would welcome it if it was enabled with the same kind of request that pops up when a browser wants to access the microphone or camera.

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That is, quite literally, how it works in Chromium. Mozilla still sees it as a security risk, even with user permissions. Honestly, having to boot Chromium is a bigger security risk.

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You have a choice A. Be a Chad who Dumps Chrome and chromium based browsers . or B. remain a whiny loser who has to deal with ads.

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Firefox has been fantastic for me.

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Even without all this ad blocker bs from Google, I like Firefox a lot better than the chrome based browser I used before, opera.

It’s a lot cleaner and feels faster

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Google can go fuck themselves for this. The moment their stupid Manifest v3 bullshit came to light, I quickly migrated to Firefox and haven’t looked back.

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As someone who never switched to chrome in the first place, it’s fun to watch all the smoke and fire now.

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Mozilla was quite the memory hog, back in the day. In some respects, it still is, but it’s certainly better than this Manifest v3 crap.

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Firefox is probably the oldest browser in existence. The only surviving one among the original three (Netscape Navigator). The fact that it’s still among the major two is impressive by itself.

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Same. As I’m seeing what’s happening with Google, im glad I made that choice

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Firefox is just the only decent option. And while at it, use Piped or Invidious while you still can, people!

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I tried using Invidious, but found that it misses quite a lot of new posts in my subscriptions. So in the end I ahem flew to Ukraine to take advantage of family Premium for around £3 a month.

Because honestly, I have no real problem paying for Premium, but I massively object to paying £20 A MONTH to watch (mostly) amateur content that YouTube aren’t actually paying anyone to commission. How is Disney+ almost half the damn cost of a YT Premium family plan? Because Google are money-grubbing cunts, that’s how.

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Mine has been working fine, but the instance did lose all my “Mark as watched” videos, and for some reason one specific channel never makes into the Subscriptions panel, but I just have it as a favourite and it ends up almost the same. The instance I was using for Piped is now borked, so I’m hanging onto Invidious for now.

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Newpipe is damn near perfect. No ads either.

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I’d recommend archiving all of the channels you can from Youtube, it’s clear they don’t want our traffic at all.

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I mean, yeah. They absolutely don’t want to be spending bandwidth on those of us who use adblockers. What I don’t think a lot of people realize is that Google is perfectly happy with the people who are essentially never served an ad not using the service anymore. Saves them money.

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I meant firefox and non chrome users in general but yeah

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Everything you said is correct. But the infuriating part is that YouTube reached that position by killing off its competition. YouTube wouldn’t be the only one standing now if they had shown the same behavior 10 years ago. Even more infuriating is that there are a lot of people around who support this entitlement from Google - because you know, you’re stealing from the creators! All creators should find a way to accept donations without feeding the abusive corporation.

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