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You know what’s mad. My brother in law on benefits blames other people on different benefits

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Disabled veteran relative who gets mad about other disabled people parking in handicap parking…

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They should have ten different levels of handicap parking passes and then we could watch them all fight.

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Bumper cars style, no weapons, just wheels.

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My step dad, on disability for his knees, yelling about single mothers getting food stamps.

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This is just the Matrix working as intended.

Probably a lot of internal shame being projected, and when he gets on his feet he’s probably going to feel guilty for a long time.

I was on the dole for a while and they do everything to make you feel like a criminal just for needing help. After I started paying taxes again I realised the the unproductive toxicity of my thinking.

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Normally I’d agree with you but he’s been on the bru all his days. Not lazy per say but the second he sees the deduction column of the wage slip he finds excuses to quit.

When he was diagnosed with osteoarthritis he acted like he hit the jackpot.

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Oh yeah, I’ve hit the jackpot, too. Full disability benefits that barely pay for my rent and utilities, but I have to choose between food and meds. All it costs me is constant diarrhoea, vomiting, seizures, fainting, and debilitating pain so I can’t leave the house.

Totally worth giving up the nearly six-figure career I absolutely adored doing. -.-

(Sorry, not aimed at you but at your family member and others with that attitude. It’s the opposite of what many of us want, but we have no other choice.)

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63 points

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Like a tortoise without a shell on.

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53 points

nothing makes a rich man feel better about himself than watching peasants fight over scraps

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Hell yeah, when the food is bad in prison you don’t blame the other inmates.

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HOBO FIGHT!!!

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DAE remember Bumfights?

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Same as the immigrants aren’t stealing your job, the greedy capitalist are giving those jobs to immigrants to cut down their bottom line, and they love nothing more when you blame the immigrants.

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Immigrants spend less on frivolous bullshit and send money to other countries. Businesses lose out on that end, especially tech companies and wealthy industries.

Manufacturing and manual labor jobs love immigrants because they can pay them minimum wage for horrible working conditions compared to your typical minimum wage 3rd+ generation white worker.

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3rd+ generation white worker.

I’m not sure this is how it works. But I don’t live in US.

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The answer is a) illegally, or b) the company making use of temporary foreign worker programs. The TFW programs have absurdly little oversight and you can generally treat the workers like chattel slaves.

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Happens in the UK too, widespread enough that my local government employs immigrant workers for below minnimum wage.

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At this point, the people smart enough to understand this- already get it. Those that refuse to accept it- are lost causes.

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lost causes with the power to vote…

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This is not the scariest part

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Here, nor there. The point remains. There’s no getting through to them. They’re beyond help.

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It is both here and there. It isn’t an argument against your statement. It is saying how what you’ve said is worse than it appears. It is both enhancing and expanding on your comment.

And you’re trying to start an argument on the internet with someone on your side. 🤦

Starting to think you might be one of those lost causes.

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Have you reread his comment now? Do you understand it yet?

(By the by, you truncated the expression in your first sentence: “it’s neither here nor there”. Wasn’t sure if you did that on purpose for brevity.)

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The problem will always be the people not smart enough to understand it

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Or never think it will ever happen to them so if they aren’t ever going to benefit from it, why should they pay for anybody to have it?

The perfect example of this is during COVID in the UK when everything locked down and the government implemented furlough payments for all workers using your wage defined by income tax. Lots of self employed are set up as a business and pay the majority of their income as the business with a token amount being actual wages so that they qualify for state benefits like the state pension. This is done to lower their tax bill. Cue loads of self employed moaning that they weren’t getting enough to live on, despite making an intentional choice to pay less tax.

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Or never think it will ever happen to them so if they aren’t ever going to benefit from it, why should they pay for anybody to have it?

But I’m in this camp, why should I pay taxes if all I see is a dreadful health system, shit public education system, knowing the social security is bankrupt and will not be able to provide me with a decent retirement, and all the money going into bank bailouts and mismanaged public companies.

If all I see is the gov mismanaging the funds I give them, why am I not allowed to manage them myself?

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I don’t think so. I know otherwise intelligent people who think 40% of beneficiaries are “scroungers” who are “cheating the system” somehow.

The more we can circulate this message the better: there is still plenty of people who could be brought around.

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