Many leftists are extremely idealist and get swayed by Western opinion a lot. They dont support Hamas because Hamas are not the perfect MLs freedom fighters. This is childish and just gives ammunition to the liberals to discredit Hamas’ stance. This criticism of Hamas goes against the global decolonization cause. Every time a decolonial group fights against their oppressor, they are criticized even by leftists. Is this what Lenin referred to as left-com?

It sucks that people who one thought were comrades end up doing this. Like are we even on the same team or are you just a closeted liberal? It is crazy, unscientific and unmaterialistic to not consider Palestinian material conditions, and to not consider who they made their champions for this cause, but instead to apply your idealism to the situation.

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Because many of these so-called “leftists” are actually liberals who simply follow the dominant opinion without bothering to do any research into why. To criticise Hamas for fighting back against their 75 year old oppressor and even refer to them as terrorists over it is fucking wild. I don’t want it to sound like I’m equating the two but it genuinely reminds me of when a woman comes forward about abuse and everyone tries to claim she was just as bad for fighting back

Pro tip: In my experience, anyone who actually refers to themselves as a “leftist” is likely not on the left. Leftists typically do not refer to themselves as leftists because it does not mean anything really. I don’t trust left wingers unless they actually name which specific belief they follow

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when you’re flooded with propaganda even fairly vigilant people will let some ideas theough

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did a control F, surprised no one has gone with one of the simple reasons: pure racism baby! scary brown muslims are obviously terrorists!!! (/s)

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When you tell people to “consider the material conditions” you have to include their material conditions.

Openly supporting Hamas is illegal in many countries.

There are consequences to every action, and while some people lean into the “actions vs words” trope, saying something publicly is an action, and it has consequences.

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Because in some countries this is what happens if you say you support Palestine, let alone Hamas.

https://www.ekathimerini.com/news/1224275/police-arrest-22-year-old-palestinian-over-flag-raising/

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Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Existence is resistance for Palestinians.

Please refer to Israel as Occupied Palestine, or occupied territories. The IDF is a fascist and ethnonationalist occupying force. Israelis are settlers. We understand however that the imperial narrative (which tries to legitimise Israel) is internalised in the imperial core and slip-ups are naturally expected.

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