Reminder that Jews for Hitler & the Log Cabin Republicans are things that exist or have existed.
I think I heard about the first one.
Were they the ones that thought he was joking and voted for him because they thought it would be funny?
"A possible reason why some German Jews supported Hitler may have been that they thought that his antisemitism was only for “stirring up the masses”.
The seemingly ironic fact that a Jewish association advocated loyalty to the Nazi programme gave rise to a contemporary joke about Naumann and his followers ending their meeting by giving the Nazi salute and shouting “Down With Us!”
It must of been that part that I was thinking about.
I don’t think that’s true. From my understanding Von Naumann was motivated by a sense of nationalism, not privilege.
Same with Latinos for Trump which is a real group.
they don’t even have to be from trump.
so much of my extended family came over without papers, but managed to get them and now they want that trump wall built and want immigrants banned and the last election proves that it’s a common thread among all latinos.
most of the ones in rural texas and suburban florida like trump; every one else hates him and there’s no in between somehow; but hating on new immigrants is common everywhere.
I work with immigrants mostly on work visas, and they all seem to support stricter immigration controls. Look at Vivek Ramiswamy, his parents are immigrants and he’s hardcore about restricting immigration.
They’re just pulling the ladder up behind themselves…
That said, there are others, like Nikki Haley (I think her parents are immigrants too), who take a much more reasonable approach to make it easier to come legally and harder to come illegally. I don’t like her other policies, but it’s nice seeing a Republican from an immigrant family oppose Trump and his stupid border policies.
I yesterday read that one of the Koch Brothers endorses her run for presidency and wants her to prevent Trumps resurgence. Although I wouldn’t vote GOP (I favoured Bernie 2016) it seems she’s reasonable and the minor evil.
I’m from Europe so excuse me if I got smth wrong.
Yeah it’s such a weird attitude because I bet they didn’t come over the border. The vast majority of illegal immigration into the United States comes from people overstaying their visas, I don’t see what a wall is going to do to stop that. Well I do see what a wall is going to do to stop that, nothing at all.
As they say a 30 ft wall can be beaten by 31 ft ladder, but equally you could just take the plane flying at 12,000 ft
“If we can eliminate suffering why did I suffer?” A lot of people justify their trials and tribulations as well as a coping mechanism, but eliminating them dimmishing the copeing.
Empathy, and how it relates to fairness.
Consider the premise: “I had to suffer to get where I am today.” Disregarding nuance, there are two polarized takes when confronted with improvement of the situations:
- I suffered and so should the next guy.
- I don’t want anyone to suffer like I did.
We see a stark difference in outlook, but it’s hard to see a justification. My theory is that it has to do with fairness. Watch this:
- I suffered and so should the next guy, it’s only fair.
- I don’t want anyone to suffer like I did, what I experienced was unfair.
I think this is the thinking that explains everyone’s observations, while letting everyone maintain some degree of rationality. The trick is not about whether or not someone empathizes at all, but rather how they prioritize empathy with respect to their own suffering. From there one determines what is fair or unfair about past and future events.
I spoke with a dude from Ukraine the other day and my mind was blown. He was going on about immigrants and the wall. He actually said, “They want to destroy our culture.” I said to him, “Dude, with your accent there are people who immediately feel that way about you when they hear you speak.” It was like he didn’t even hear me. Then he went on about Muslims in Europe and said something like, “We can’t relate to those people and they don’t want to fit in, they want to take over. The Muslims are worse but they’re doing the same thing coming up here from down south.”
In his mind he was the good immigrant. All the other ones are bad.
I don’t know. The world is neat.
Latinos make sense though. Latinos are a diverse group with anyone from the old Spanish rancher to the immigrant Venezuelan to the anti-communist Cuban. They are employed in many sectors of the economy especially in the southwest US such as natural gas, oil and energy. Some Latino families are first and second generation, but many are much farther removed such as the families where the border moved over them. Catholicism is dominant in Latin America.
There are a number of factors that drive latinos towards conservative politics
“Leopards ate my face” exclaimed the Face-Eating Leopard supporter.
We have it on Lemmy as well! :D
More moron than oxy
Meat elects meat grinder.