63 points

needs more jpeg

permalink
report
reply
24 points

[softly] Don’t.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

I was going to use more jpeg.com but it couldn’t do webps. I didn’t want to convert it on my phone somehow so I screenshot instead. However it made me curious and my file manager was able to convert it easily by typing in jpg for the type. So I uploaded that instead and it worked.

Anyway, here you go: https://morejpeg.com/Image/View/3377e20f-8894-ee11-8100-8b81c820316e

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

One day the internet will be filled with indecipherable images whose meanings will be lost to the sands of time, but people will just keep posting them out of tradition because “that’s just what you do.”

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Long after the human race is dead, bots will be the only presence online. They’ll repost the same posts and they’ll make the same comments and replies and upovote each other till the end of eternity.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Or until the electricity power plants give out, whichever comes first.

permalink
report
parent
reply
51 points
*

I don’t know how to feel about this election as an ameribro.

I’m left-libertarian (upper case left, lower case libertarian) on the political compass, which is practically not represented in US politics, so I’ll take whatever I can get. Biden is, realistically, the best I can hope for this election cycle. He’s not great, there’s a lot of big policy issues I diverge with him on pretty sharply (both on left and libertarian), but the other candidates for the DNC are a hot fucking mess. As for the libertarian party, it’s actually insane. Gary Johnson got booed for saying he’d want people to have driver’s licenses to drive. That’s a no go for me. And as far as the conservatives go, they run the gamut from not an instant disaster (I guess) to the loud, proud, and complete end of the republic.

Biden has at least done some things that I kinda like, and doesn’t seem keen on destroying the republic. I’d love to get a reformer in and sweep Reaganism out on its wrinkled, swampy ass forevermore, but I don’t think that’s realistic at this point. Where I start getting worried is that the Biden campaign seems dead set on repeating some frankly terrible HRC '16 strats, which, well, we saw how well that worked for her, but the pro-Biden response is “Trust me bro, Trump is actually unelectable this time”. I’m also concerned because, let’s face it, Biden’s old enough that he could get struck down with a stroke or what have you at any minute.* Every day, the cosmic dice are getting more and more weighted against him. The democrats have done very little to make a case for a possible candidate/president Harris, where the republicans have laid a LOT of groundwork against her. If Biden bites it or gets incapacitated, Harris is going to have a huge uphill climb in front of her.

I guess where I get uneasy is that it feels like the democrats are making a lot of avoidable and predictable mistakes, and they’re just banking that it won’t blow up in their face this time because, uh, what, that was that time, this is this time? They could do better, but they’re just going to choose not to, and be shocked if shit goes sideways.

*I mean, so could Trump, but I’m not hoping that he wins.

permalink
report
reply
18 points
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
33 points
*

Not OP but gonna explain a bit about it nonetheless:

Other than the US use (generally meaning anarcho-capitalist, selfishly ignorant or both), libertarian is just the opposite pole of the “how much do we let people control us” axis from authoritarian.

So basically a left-libertarian (which is a big spectrum of different political philosophies) is broadly speaking someone who doesn’t believe in inherent authority but DOES believe in rules and various degrees of enforcement to defend the powerless from the powerful.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Good explanation!

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points
*

Isn’t that left liberal? Libertarian is liberal right on that compass.

Right goes to laissez Faire markets and liberal is the opposite dimension of authoritarian.

One shame less in your life: you are not reading Ayn Rand.

permalink
report
parent
reply
25 points

Well, typically other libertarians like to pretend we don’t exist and invoke the magic phrase “you’re not a real libertarian”, whereas left libertarians prefer to pretend that there’s more than one of us. The tl;Dr is that it’s more of anti-authoritarian take than a pro-free-market take that you’d get from right lib.

On the matter of economics, I believe that free markets work and work well where they exist, which is certainly not everywhere they’re imagined to. In other words, I’m not willing to imagine that markets with baked-in coercion (like healthcare) are free. Free markets require choice and, ultimately, the ability to say no without coming to harm. If I can buy a widget from Bob, a widget from Sally, or not buy a widget and suffer no cost or harm, that’s a free market. I also generally don’t believe in rugged individualism; poverty is, itself, a coercive force in economics. This sort of view is partly how I wholeheartedly endorse mass transit and good urbanism as a libertarian, because being functionally coerced into car ownership isn’t economic freedom.

I also believe that the government does have a right to interfere with gross negligence. That is, if you’re drunk driving, if you’re having a bonfire and there’s a high wildfire risk, or you’re doing something that any reasonable person would understand is an imminent danger to the safety of others around you, the government has an absolute right to make you stop. Most right libertarians think that the government should only interfere with direct violence and that everything else can be settled in court; so basically, if you’re a drunk driver, make sure you kill whoever you hit so they can’t sue you. I also think that this applies to companies and organizations, not just people.

Those are, probably, pretty uncontroversial takes, and you might be thinking “so where’s the libertarianism?”. Well, I also think that the government has massively overstepped its bounds, especially in the last forty years or so since Reaganism. Ready? Here we go. The war on drugs and the war on terror has seen the government giving itself ridiculous powers that need to be culled immediately. The NSA mass surveillance program (which was ‘killed’ by the SCOTUS and resurrected by Obama and the Republicans under the cynically-named USA FREEDOM ACT later that same day) should be erased in totality. The government should not be collecting any data from any tech company on anybody without consent, a warrant, or the data being anonymized (if it’s, for example, for research purposes). The patriot act should be repealed yesterday, and gitmo should be closed because holding anyone without trial is wrong, full stop. No-knock raids should not happen, period, and we desperately need police reform. The entire country is a free speech zone, and protests should not be met with brutal crackdowns. I also think that what happens between consenting adults or what a consenting adult does to themselves is nobody else’s business, as long as it’s without coercion. That’s maybe 5% of the rant I could go on, but I don’t want to write a book, and I don’t think you want to read one.

Also:

-What happens between consenting adults is nobody else’s business, least of all the church or the government. I’m pro sex work and pro LGBT rights.

-I’m pro-abortion rights.

-The government needs to leave the native Americans the fuck alone. 2023 and we’re still fucking with them. The government needs to leave everyone alone, but they particularly need to fuck off on native Americans. That said, I think we should still financially support their recovery as a people and culture from what we’ve done to them, but they should get to decide the shape that takes, not us.

-I’m firmly against borders. If it was up to me, I’d Thanos snap that shit. No more borders. I know that’s an extreme position, and I’d be willing to compromise for an EU-style open borders arrangement.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

There are dozens of us.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point
*

nice program, how do you think it’s best to achieve it? Politics isn’t just about goals it’s about methods.

And don’t forget other classic libertarian stumbling block, environmental pollution. Even if libertarians admit it’s an issue I still haven’t seen any ways of solving a truly global issue which has no immediate measurable harm (and not fixing it is heavily incentivized by the free market)

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Not OP, but I think we’d be friends. I want left (no pun intended) alone to live my own life, but I don’t think people should be left to die because of the machine we’re in. I believe your rights extend to the point they interact with mine and vice versa. You’re rights can’t prevent mine and vice versa.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I think the neoliberals have just co-opted the term, so it now usually means neoliberal. But it also means egalitarian.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points
*

Which also means neoliberal. If you actually took the definition they give you, it’s completely incoherent.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Political compass is libertarian (that kind of libertarian) propaganda used primarily by neo-nazis. You should take anyone using it seriously.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I wish you the best of luck with your strategic voting, hopefully the lesser of two evils has some amount of representation for you.

I don’t really understand the US’ electoral system, but you guys seem really boned by the whole two party system. Like no wonder everyone is so grumpy and unsatisfied all the time when you guys seem to just have two big parties that span such wide gamuts of views and policies.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Basically, yes. Speaking as someone who’s voted third party before, there’s no hope of changing the system by voting third party at the federal level. Game theory on first-past-the-post elections and the absolutely insane amount of money in our elections practically ensures it. The best way to effect change there is to go to some form of transferrable vote or ranked choice vote at the state and local level. There are already some states whose electoral college splits its votes in this way, and the two main parties (and their big donors) hate it because it erodes their ability to take a state’s vote for granted and weakens their duopoly.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

Libertarians are nothing but hipster conservatives. It doesn’t make you sound smarter, quite the opposite.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

My views align much more closely with Anarcho-Communism than US conservatism. I’m not an Anarcho-Communist because all evidence I’ve seen thus far suggests that truly functional Anarcho-Communism (which has existed historically) is dependent on small enough communities that there are few to no truly anonymous interactions and/or a strong social cage of norms that ends up being morality police with extra steps.

permalink
report
parent
reply
41 points

Most of us are right there with you. What’s most important though is that most of us in like 4 swing states are also right there with you.

permalink
report
reply
14 points

Prolly even like in some red states as well.

The American election system has so many flaws, that I am surprised that no politician cares enough for that to change.

permalink
report
parent
reply
17 points

Things work really well here for you if you’re amoral and wealthy. So like 99% of elected officials.

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points
*

I saw a video of republicans outraged because someone was apparently trying to change the voting system to use ranked voting, and this would destroy the two-party system (yt link) which apparently would be a horrible thing to happen

Strange that they worship the founding fathers so much and insist that the system they put in place is perfect and must never be changed when John Adams wrote (google books link):

There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

lets hope they dont get distracted with the economy or some other shit

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

Did you know that Biden is like three and a half years older than Trump? I mean. What were his parents thinking?

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Biden? Hah, he can barely string together a coherent sentence! Trump? Uh… USA! USA! USA!

permalink
report
parent
reply
39 points

You know what, I’m just gonna say it. American’s stupid political situation will destroy the world. There I said it.

permalink
report
reply
16 points

Thank decades of education cuts.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points
*

America has delusions of adequacy. They couldn’t even win a war against unarmed civilians. TWICE! You’re not that important.

permalink
report
parent
reply
33 points

America:

permalink
report
reply

Memes

!memes@lemmy.ml

Create post

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

Community stats

  • 12K

    Monthly active users

  • 13K

    Posts

  • 286K

    Comments