Tesla Cybertruck’s stiff structure, sharp design raise safety concerns - experts::The angular design of Tesla’s Cybertruck has safety experts concerned that the electric pickup truck’s stiff stainless-steel exoskeleton could hurt pedestrians and cyclists.

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Gonna be real fun to see the crash test rating.

Without crumple zones, all of the kinetic energy goes into the occupants.

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OTOH it weighs almost 7000lbs (~3100kg) so it’s going to plow through most of everything with its sheer mass.

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You’d be surprised how much a concrete pillar holding up an overpass can actually take. They don’t break like in the movies, they are specifically designed to take big truck impacts and not fail. Anybody crashing a Cybertruck at highway speeds into one of those is instantly turned into red colored mashed potatoes.

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Anybody crashing a Cybertruck at highway speeds into one of those is instantly turned into red colored mashed potatoes

Why does that sound delicious 😭

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15 points

case in point

We have barriers good enough to stop a fully-loaded semi in effectively zero distance.

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Go hit a 10"+ tree in a pickup and see how fast you stop. You can wander over and pick the engine up when it flies out the hood. The tree will loose some bark.

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Been there, done that. 0/10. Do not recommend.

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I thought a car had to have that before it went on sale?

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Believe it or not in the USA it’s actually based off of self compliance in the USA. There is no specific government body that has a standardized test that they have to pass to be made legal. The manufacture gets to make that decision themselves, then if there is an issue that the government finds later they can be pulled from the road.

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I hope they get pulled from the road. Problem is, he’ll just bribe some government officials

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:O

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Yeah have you seen the footage it’s as stiff as the rod up musks butt hole

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That’s… computer generated. BeamNG maybe?

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I’m pretty sure that’s BeamNG, yeah. That sand looks like a texture from Johnson valley, I’m pretty sure the wall they’re hitting is either a gas station or a garage model that was placed on a road, and the skid marks from the tires look the same as they do in BeamNG. You can see body panels and doors clipping through the body of the truck on several occasions, too.

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Looked convincing at first, but it felt too clean- Then at 7 seconds in, you can watch a white panel clip straight through the door and windshield lol

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Yeah, without a disclaimer and evidence it’s modeled correctly it’s just straight misinformation at this point.

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Look at the name of the channel too.

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Second crash, the body part above the front wheel goes straight through it.

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Wow looks unsafe as fuck!!

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Thanks for sharing! How do I know if this is good or bad haha

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Couldn’t trust the truck enough to put a dummy in the seat.

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Because unless they have been outright lying in all of their specs, the entire body is made up of the same thick stainless steel that they have shown to be literally bulletproof.

It’s 4x as thick as current sheet metal used in other vehicles, and twice as thick as the steel bumpers used in old cars that didn’t have crumple zones.

That combined with the fact that they have stated that all of the strength and rigidity for the truck comes from the exoskeleton, that would preclude being able to crumple.

They have not made safety a priority in anything on this monstrosity. The windows are are all laminated and shatterproof, meaning you can’t break them to escape if there’s a fire or you end up underwater and the body is bulletproof meaning that it can’t be torn open with the jaws of life if you need to be extracted.

It’s a giant metal coffin.

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Windows will shatter just like any other car window, and a jaws of life would pull apart that tin can no problem.

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I don’t know what the hell you’ve been reading, but they’ve never claimed the entire truck is solid stainless steel. Just the exterior panels.

they claimed that the exterior panels would be able to add to the rigidity and strength of the truck. Not that it was 100% rigid or that the exterior made up 100% of the structural strength.

The interior is still basically just a regular aluminum body like all their other cars.

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Ah, so it’s all from your incorrect assumptions about how materials work.

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I know it’s fun to bash Tesla every now and then for their ridiculous things.

But do you really think, after making 4 vehicles with top of the line safety, that they will just say ‘eh, fuck it’ with the cybertruck?

It’s an aluminum casting base construction, just like the Model Y, so why would there be no crumble zones?

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Because they wanted it to be bullet proof.

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The safety standards are a regulatory requirement. They have to pass the same tests as any other vehicle.

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How does getting rid of crumple zones facilitate that?

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There are crumple zones, they’re just not as big as those in competing trucks. But yeah, the safety comparison is probably negligible, what really makes me think it’s a bad truck is the design of the bed. It’s got slanted walls. That really limits what you can haul and how you can get it into the bed.

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Let’s be real. No one is hauling anything in this truck. In my experience the more expensive truckk the less its actually used for anything.

The entire cybertruck fleet hauling completed by 2030 is probably the equivalent to one year of 01 Nissan Frontiers…

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Yeah the practicality of the cybertruck is definitely questionable!

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That actually would be on brand for Musk.

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Really think they will just say ‘eh fuck it’

Were talking about Elon here. Yes, I do think so. In addition, don’t give too much credit, the other vehicles would always be inherently safer because they’re electric.

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Ah yes, inherent safety can naturally be disregarded in such considerations.

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Seriously, having been hit by a fairly rounded Impreza at low speed that still did significant damage, I’m shivering at the thought of what these edges would do to soft tissue and bone in the same conditions. The pressure at the contact points would be dramatically higher.

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Sorry about that.

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Holy shit you were the driver?

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Well, I drive an Impreza and I did hit a pedestrian at low speed several years ago, so probably.

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Yeah cars should definitely not be colliding with people. The results are horrible. Welcome to civilization with cars, where our overall strategy for minimizing the death cars to do pedestrians is based on collision avoidance rather than making car-pedestrian collisions safe.

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Making car-pedestrian collisions safe is a ridiculous idea failed to doom from the start. Cars are big and hard, people are small and squishy.

I think the key is to prevent cars and people from coexisting as much as possible.

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Making car-pedestrian collisions safe is a ridiculous idea failed to doom from the start. Cars are big and hard, people are small and squishy.

My quite large awd minivan that can tow 3500 lbs and fit a massive amount in the back has a hood that slopes down quickly to about a waist height. God forbid if I hit someone, they would clearly be scooped up onto the hood, which might sound bad but literally every single new pickup (with basically the same specs as my minivan on paper except with less capable AWD because of no weight in the back and a bed that doesn’t come with a cover like mine did) is basically designed to try to hit a pedestrian in the shoulders and head and smash them down under the vehicle. This isn’t a hypothetical safety thing, pedestrian fatalities are raising at an alarming rate because it has become cool for insecure men to drive around pickups that are optimized to kill a pedestrian in an accidental crash. Also, the rear cab seats of these pickups are extremely dangerous in a crash (there isnt any space to cushion collision) which is dark given that I always see losers driving around their whole family in these monstrosities treating it like a family vehicle.

I agree though that kicking cars out of places that pedestrians are in and valuing pedestrian use of public ways over car use especially in urban areas is ultimately the best solution.

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That is what you get when you slack on pedestrian safety. This a regulations problem, not a Tesla problem.

https://usa.streetsblog.org/2017/12/07/while-other-countries-mandate-safer-car-designs-for-pedestrians-america-does-nothing

However, under the federal government’s current safety rating system, known as the New Car Assessment Program (NCAP), almost every vehicle gets a four- or five-star rating. That’s because the system only takes into account the safety of those within cars, not all the people walking, pushing strollers, biking, or taking transit outside them.

https://nacto.org/2022/05/24/why-the-u-s-gives-monster-suvs-five-star-safety-ratings-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/

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Brings back some “carmageddon” nostalgia though.

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Yeah, this cybertruck would fit right into the game.

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They even got that low-polygon aesthetic.

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Hmm, that is a game I haven’t played in two decades.

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This thing is huge, it does 0-60 in under 3 seconds, has sharp angles, and its styling does not seem to target the sensible end of the market… It’s like an industrial strength pedestrian destroyer.

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And as a bonus it actually looks like something out of Carmageddon.

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I shudder to think what one of those cybertrucks would do if it tried to plow through a crowd of protesters.

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Probably about the same thing as any other vehicle.

Jesus are we really gonna pretend this is the first vehicle that would obliterate a pedestrian in a collision?

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Probably 0-60 in 4 seconds

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It’s actually a pussy-magnet.

Even the pasty-facediest of incels will have no problems getting laid showing up in one of these bad boys.

It’s just how the world works 🤷

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Help, I bought a Cybertruck and now every cat in town is chasing me!

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I hear it has preprogrammed wait times for replying to text messages from females based on the redpill algorithm.

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Have you actually had any form of friendship or relationship with a women in the past couple of years?

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I would like to hear from the women of Lemmy- how many of you would have sex with a man just because they drove a Cybertruck?

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could hurt pedestrians and cyclists

I dare you to convince me that anyone still buying Tesla would not see that as a benefit. That’s going to be the number one selling point of this thing after articles like this make their rounds.

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Did you buy your Tesla since Elmo when full fash, and would you buy one now if you didn’t have one already?

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Why the fuck do people hate on the one class of people using the most efficient form of transportation that also provides exercise in a world that can’t stop spewing greenhouse gasses (For electric cars, those greenhouse gasses are being spewed at the power plant instead of from the car itself) and people don’t get enough exercise?

Fucking. Madness. Cyclists should be applauded and not targeted.

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I don’t know about other cities, but locally we have a very nice and well paved city-spanning network of bicycle paths that are parallel to, but separate from, the city streets. And we have a group of guys on their $10k bikes who ignore these paths to ride three across in a lane during rush hour on roads that will beat their wheels square, ignoring all red lights and stop signs. They make it hard for me to ride, because I get associated with these people by virtue of riding a bike.

People don’t hate cyclists. They hate those cyclists.

This is of course excluding those who hate everything which isn’t horrible for the planet. They hate bikes, electric cars, smaller cars that don’t burn much gas, vegetables, and any woman with a spine.

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Most efficient?

Human bodies are god awful at converting fuel to useful mechanical energy.

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I’ll give you an honest answer. I live in a rualish area. There’s a 2 lane highway that’s roughly 50 miles from my city to another one. 55 and a lot of blind curves. Farmers in semi trucks use that road all the time for hauling stuff.

Every summer there’s a pack of cyclists that try that route. They barely do 25. Every summer one of them does on one of the corners. You simply can’t stop a semi fast enough when something is doing half the speed limit, especially on a sharp corner.

They’re a fucking menace. There literally hundreds of miles of trails to ride in my area, but they have to be on that one particular road. They’re simply the most self centered assholes in the universe IMO.

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You have serious issues and world view problems to even begin to think things like that about people.

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I mean yeah that could be it. Or more likely; they are joking.

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