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I am Jack’s COMPLETE lack of surprise.

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Right? I tried it out with a friend of mine that has an Apple device, I have Android, and we were joking about Apple shutting it down within a few days. Lo and behold it took only 3 days.

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6 points

I think I need a macro for that.

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36 points

This was predicted on the post about Beeper

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11 points

I’m just curious as to what Beeper’s response will be.

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25 points

Something something monopoly, something something gatekeepers. They don’t need a war chest big enough to sue Apple, they just need to convince the EU to do it. I’m sure they saw this coming from the start.

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The status of Apple as gatekeeper in the messaging app ecosystem is not yet clear. Remember that iMessages is not really popular in Europe, and Europe wont name Apple as a gatekeeper because of imessage’s popularity in the U.S. The EU does seem to be inclined to define them as gatekeeper, but that is not yet final. and if Apple implements RCS that might get them out of the hook. see section 5.4 of this document https://ec.europa.eu/competition/digital_markets_act/cases/202344/DMA_100013_215.pdf

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3 points

Apple will respond with something something RCS coming soon I guess.

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24 points

Fucking apple and it’s greedy service.

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7 points

At this point it’s not even just that, it’s actually very petty and childish.

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21 points

I’d like to see a game of cat and mouse until Apple fucks up and breaks their own imessage app

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20 points

If Bleeper were opensource, I imagine there’d be more contributors willing to reverse engineer iMessage.

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https://github.com/mautrix/imessage https://github.com/beeper/barcelona these are the core processes used to connect to the iMessage service

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I thought it was. What a missed opportunity.

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4 points

Then they’d have a harder time charging $2/month for it.

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With the original Beeper app you made an Apple ID through Apples website to use for setting up iMessage. This does require folks having the email in order to use iMessage, so definetly worth setting up an alias. It still works, while Beeper Mini doesn’t apparently.

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It still works

Yes and allowing beeper to MaInTheMiddle your messages does not present any security issues at all.

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9 points

Their Matrix bridge is open source, and (at least they claim) everything is E2E encrypted. I love Beeper, and as unstable of a service as it is, it’s still really great and I fully trust it with my messages. Waited 2 years for this service and I’m gonna use it lol.

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It is end to bridge encrypted. I trust them too but I still prefer to self-host this stuff.

https://www.beeper.com/faq#how-does-beeper-connect-to-encrypted-chat-networks-like-imessage-signal-whatsapp

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everything is E2E encrypted

not really. an E2E encrypted message is decrypted on their server, and then reencrypted before they sent it to the recipient.

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