USA Will Invest in High-Speed ​​Train to Fight Climate Change::The USA Will Invest in High-Speed ​​Train to Fight Climate Change - US President Joe Biden announced in a speech on December 9, 2023 that they are carrying out the first high-speed train projects in US history. These projects are across America

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Wildly misleading title, USA has not made any concrete plans for the investment, and has a history of lying about everything.

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😂

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Anyone that’s been on am amtrak knows exactly how well this will go.

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i want this to be real. I’ve loved trains since i was a toddler. and as an adult Trains are some thicc power chungus

unfortunately the only trains left are either subways or commercial rails, yes there is Some passenger trains. But can you get to anywhere in americs on one? Not today, Not the infrastructure that will take decades to build and Not the follow up on promises made promises. kept…coughthebigdigbostoncough

(F40PH gang gang) back in my day we memed about objects, zoomers be all meta n shit. get out of my my head charles!

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Amtrak is still a thing for passenger trains. It’s just that it’s slower than flying and just as expensive.

https://www.amtrak.com

Flew my wife to L.A. for her birthday, easy peasy. Couple of hours by plane.

Amtrak?

Fastest is 26 hours and 13 minutes for $230 coach tickets. Private room for $580.

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Amtrak is still a thing for passenger trains. It’s just that it’s slower than flying and just as expensive.

This is the core reason passenger rail has not become dominant in the US. The country is so physically large that planes do passenger rail’s job, but faster and at the same price point.

Instead, rail in the US is almost entirely bulk cargo as that makes a ton of sense. Cargo trains are cheaper than trucks/aircraft and the slower speed can be easily planned for.

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Acela is useful. We have one intercity rail line that is useful, has high ridership, is profitable, people choose to use, arguably faster than driving or flying, demand far outstrips supply. also the fastest but it’s not really fast enough to be called “high speed”

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It’s not just slower than flying, it’s slower than driving in most cases.

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I just punched in a random 7 hour drive in the US. Amtrak would take 16 hours and cost 3x as much as one would spend in gas to take oneself and their SO on a trip. This isn’t even accounting for costs and time associated with getting to/from the station; whereas the car is door-to-door, faster, and cheaper.

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My parents once bought a private room on Amtrak. When they were shown to it, they literally thought it was a closet to store their bags not their room.

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It’ll take the US decades to get high-speed rail up and running, especially with its culture of litigation, property rights, regulatory capture and politicised overregulation of threats to incumbents, not to mention Citizens United and the ability of the aforementioned incumbents to buy laws and regulations. By then, climate change will have won.

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So, should we just give up then and not bother?

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I’m betting this money will just go to bribe some political donors. Take note that the amount of investment here is less than what was outlayed to increase the number of EV chargers in the US (which hasn’t happened) for something that is orders of magnitude more expensive and complicated than installing battery chargers. California is working on a 171-mile stretch of HSR, and the estimated cost is projected to be around $35 billion in a state with tons of open, undeveloped land. Imagine the cost of doing this along the densely populated eastern seaboard. $8 billion in grants is a joke.

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You’ve got to love internet negativity. Nothing can ever be good.

There are plenty of issues to deal with, but this is a huge improvement over the existing status-quo. Can we be happy that the Biden Administration has done something to move things in the right direction on this issue?

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Oh good! I was hoping for some defeatism in the face of a relatively positive bit of news.

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Let’s say, ten years in the future, a brilliant scientist invents a magic box that drastically reduces some of the biggest inflictors of CO2, and/or even repairs some of the previous damage. Such a marvelous invention would only be valuable in saving the human race if there were simultaneously other improvements on efficiency and CO2 generation to improve the overall reductions.

Movies get us used to one person/initiative saving the world. What’s more practical is a whole bunch of little initiatives - even if each one doesn’t do enough on its own.

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