Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) said Sunday that the United States needs to accept that Ukraine will likely need to “cede some territory” to Russia to end the fighting. Vance told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union” that he is opposed to sending more aid to Ukraine because he does not believe the country will ever be able to overpower Russia. He questioned why sending billions in aid to Ukraine is going to help the country at this point in its war against Russia, considering previous aid has yet to end the war. “What’s in America’s best interest is to accept Ukraine is going to have to cede some territory to the Russians, and we need to bring this war to a close,” Vance said. “But when I think about the great human tragedy here, hundreds of thousands of Eastern Europeans innocent have been killed in this conflict. The thing that’s in our interest and in theirs is to stop the killing.”
“Look, Russia will stop fighting if Ukraine just gives up the two ‘contested’ provinces.”
“Okay, Ukraine gave them up, but Russia now says it only wants these three more.”
“Look, Russia is being very reasonable. They will stop all the fighting and even allow Ukraine to join NATO if they just get these five provinces.”
“Ukraine is just a tiny country now. They might as well submit to Russian rule.”
“Russia just wants this one tiny province in Poland. Is that really worth starting WW3 over?!!!”
“France needs to accept that American Colonies will ‘cede some territory’ to Great Britain” Nobody could ever overpower the British Navy.
“We just need to accept that the Sovjet Union will cede some territory to Nazi Germany, the Wehrmacht just can’t be overpowered.”
Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) said Sunday that the United States needs to accept that Ukraine will likely need to “cede some territory” to Russia to end the fighting.
The problem is that if you reward Putin for his efforts, you only empower him and dictators like China and Iran. China will go after Taiwan, and Iran will go after Syria.
Because after all, they don’t have to beat the US military, or even war exhaustion from the people. He just has to outlast the greed of the American Senators.
Which compared to the 800 billion we spend on the military, or the $300,000 you can bribe a senator. It would seem that Russia has chosen the more economic approach.
No we fucking don’t. If putin gets anything he wanted he’ll do it again
Putin has arguably already had a large chunk of what he wanted since 2014. There’s been so much time to not only reinforce Crimea and Donbas militarily, but also to change the population makeup by moving in thousands of Russian families.
I hate Putin as much as the next rational human being, but even a pro-Ukraine perspective has to reconcile with the fact that some of these formerly Ukrainian lands are now populated by a large majority in favour of being part of Russia. Even if Ukraine could gain full military control over these areas, it wouldn’t magically get rid of the separatists.
It brings up the difficult question of where to draw the line between ethnic cleansing and expelling foreign invaders. Personally I think expelling recently-settled Russians from occupied Ukraine would be a reasonable thing to do, but the longer the territory remains occupied, the harder is to justify.
The killing would stop if Russia simply withdrew. But the Republicans never mention that as an option. Funny that.
