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Can’t your eye only see like 30 frames per second in the center?

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Technically yes, but the more fluid the video is 8n the first place, the fewer gaps your brain has to fill in. On 30 fps you can see the moving image just fine, but your brain is always assembling the pieces and ignoring the gaps. The higher framerates reduce the number of gaps and makes a surprising difference in how smooth something looks in motion.

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4 points

So you just explained why it’s actually a no.

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Also most monitors only go up to 60fps, and even if you have a fancy monitor that does, your OS probably doesn’t bother to go higher than 60 anyways. Even if the game itself says the fps is higher, it just doesn’t know that your pc/monitor isnt actually bothering to render all the frames…

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This is blatantly false.

Windows will do whatever frame rate the EDID reports the display as being capable of. It won’t do it by default, but it’s just a simple change in the settings application.

Macs support higher than 60 Hz displays these days, with some of the laptops even having a built-in one. They call it by some stupid marketing name, but it’s a 120 Hz display.

Linux requires more tinkering with modelines and is complicated by the fact that you might either be running X or Wayland, but it’s supported as well.

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8 points

To add on to this. There are phones coming out now with 90+hz screens. They are noticably smoother than the 60hz ones. My current phone does 120hz.

Yeah the OS can and will shove out frames as fast as the hardware can support them

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Wayland picks up my 155, 144, and 60 hz monitors and sets them to the correct refresh rate on it’s own nowadays, so it’s even more painless.

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13 points

What the fuck? Help us understand: which OS doesn’t limit fps and what do you see when you check frame rates with your own eyes?

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27 points

my man, just because you’ve never seen the refresh rate option in the monitor settings doesn’t mean it hasn’t been there since basically forever

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17 points

You just won the award for stupidest comment in the whole commentsection. That is just completely false and makes no sense in any way. Your computer doesn’t just skip calculations its told do do. Where did you even get this idea lmao

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That was true before high framerate monitors were a thing, which was around 10+ years ago…

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no it wasn’t true back then either, CRTs have been doing 100hz and more decades ago and it was very much supported by OSes and games

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45 points

Our eyes and brains don’t perceive still images or movement in the same way as a computer. There is no simple analogy between our perception and computer graphics.

I’ve read that some things can be perceived at 1000 fps. IIRC, it was a single white frame shown for 1ms between black frames. Of course most things you won’t be able to perceive at that speed, but it certainly isn’t as simple as 30 fps!

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7 points

The human brain evolved to recognize threats in the wilderness.

We see movement and patterns very well because early hominid predators were very fast and camouflaged, so seeing the patterns of their fur and being able to react to sudden movements meant those early people didn’t die.

But evolution doesn’t optimize. Things only evolve up to the point where something lives long enough to reproduce. Maybe over extremely long time spans things will improve if they help find mates, but that is all evolution does.

Your brain perceives things fast enough for you not to get eaten by a tiger. How fast is that? Who the fuck knows.

All the being said, I like higher HZ monitors. I feel like I can perceive motion and react to things more quickly if the frame rate is higher. The smoother something looks, the more likely I feel that I can detect something like part of a character model rounding a corner. But no digital computer is ever going to have analog “frame times”, so any refresh rate you think feels comfortable is probably fine.

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8 points

That’s what I’ve heard. but also, the frequency of electricity in the USA is 60 Hz because Tesla found after experimentation that that’s the frequency where you don’t notice a lightbulb flickering anymore. Since the lightbulb flickers 120 times per second at 60 Hz, you could assume that a lower framerate than 120 fps is noticable.

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17 points

No. Iirc around 200hz is where you get diminishing returns.

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16 points

No. This is something console fanboys used to spread up when pc gamets showed off with their +30fps games

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13 points

Wait until you experience 500

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20 points

Every time I get a taste for something better, things get more expensive… I’m going to avoid trying anything higher than 144 for a while.

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It’s for the best that you do that.

Sincerely, someone who “had” to buy an RTX 4080 after buying a new 200 Hz monitor.

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8 points

Oh. Fuck…you got the Odyssey G9 as well?

In order for me to even taste the sweet potential of that monitor, I’m having to build a whole new computer. I’m dreading it.

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I just built a new PC with a Ryzen 7800X3D CPU and a Radeon RX 7900 XTX GPU, loving it so far. 400fps with Counter-Strike 2 at max settings 1080p

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I made an awful mistake of getting a 1440p OLED instead of the 540 and now a TN panel is going to be very difficult to get used to.

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13 points

Not playing TekWar at 18 frames per second

Cowards. It’s like you don’t even care about Capstone Software, the pinnacle of entertainment.

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17 points

My monitor is 240hz and counter strike runs about 400fps max settings at 1080p on my new system. It was absolutely insane playing for the first time coming from my steam deck running 30-40fps on lowest settings.

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45 points

Meh. 60 is enough for me. I didn’t notice 144 being that much better than 60.
30 can fuck right off though.

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4 points

I can mostly notice the difference in first person shooters. In most other things, 60 is plenty.

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14 points

I can go down to 30 probably a bit lower as long as it is consistant, that is the most important part.

It can also have a bit to do with me powering through Watch Dogs at 1 fram per second in some parts. You never notice how good 25-30 is until your frames starts camping in the singel digits.

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I remember playing Assassins Creed II on pc with a 9500GT and getting sub 20fps constantly to the point I had to wait for character animations to catch up with the dialogue so the next person could talk. Halfway through the game I upgraded to a GTX 560 and was astounded that everything was in sync and oh so smooth. I always remember that when I start getting annoyed I can’t get over 90fps in a game. As long as it’s playable!

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7 points

It pretty much only makes a difference in FPS games where you’re constantly switching back and forth between crosshairs focus and peripheral vision flick reactions. At 144Hz, motion blur between frames is largely eliminated, so you have more accurate flicks and your vision at the crosshairs is much sharper.

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8 points

FPS, and also just anything in general where the camera is panning quickly, such as character-centered 2d games

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4 points

You can’t play racing games if you believe that. I’d far rather play an FPS at 30 than a racing game at 60. Low frame rates can give me motion sickness at high camera speeds.

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