107 points

Hot take (I’ll accept my downward facing arrows, thank you), but people regularly vastly overestimate the safety and docility of “regular” dogs too

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You’re absolutely correct. Any dog over about 10kg has the power to cause serious injury, especially to a child or other dog/pet. Greyhounds have a horrendous prey drive and will eat your cat in 2 seconds flat

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I tried to rehabilitate a dangerous dog and failed and now find myself with another one (thankfully MUCH less prone to biting). “regular” dogs are one abusive/neglectful adolescence away from being unsafe

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1 point

Huskies and Malamutes, also.

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10 points

Humans too

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That has more to do with owners than breeding.

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7 points

Both, for sure.

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With the notable exception of pitbulls.

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Pitbulls also have the issue of being abused at higher rates then other breeds. It’s not all genetic

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Pitbulls, bull terriers, Staffordshire terriers etc are no worse than other dogs. I work in animal control, it’s a big misconception.

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2 points

No. They just often have shit owners who either want them to be aggressive or habe no ideas about dogs but think pitbulls are cool

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If only regular people could id pitbulls. No really it hard for average people to do that. Really compromises all our data.

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91 points

If they don’t kill you, they may steal your baby.

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And the media and courts will ruin the next 20 years of your life as we harass you over your dead baby.

Meanwhile dipshits on the Internet laugh about your dead baby 30 years later.

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46 points

Have you ever considered people make the joke because of Seinfeld and no inherent knowledge of the actual situation that took place in Australia?

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34 points

I came to the comments expecting Seinfeld references and am only just now learning it was a real thing.

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19 points

Decades later authorities determined a dingo really ate the baby

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If we don’t tell people not to make dead baby jokes, how are they going to find out?

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Have you ever considered, even without contemporary context, you’re still making a joke about a real life baby being killed?

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13 points

40 years :( sorry

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6 points

Alright then, let’s extrapolate, 40 years?

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In the year 2033
Ain’t gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say is in the pill you took today

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I see it as the same as the saying “If it’s brown, lay down. If it’s black, fight back. If it’s white, goodnight” when referring to what to do when around bears. Yes it is comedic and yes it is referring to being mauled to death by a polar bear. Sure there’s an argument to be made about being insensitive to the victims of polar bear maulings but that’s not the purpose of the statement. “dingo ate my baby” is pretty clear cut on the meaning. Don’t leave your baby alone where it can be eaten by a dingo, some people will find that funny because it kind of is ridiculous and horrific that this actually happened.

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Nobody has been thrown in jail and dragged through a media circus over a polar bear mauling. Lindy and Michael Chamberlain had their lives ruined after a traumatic loss. It’s not the same.

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57 points

And then you’re vilified only to be proven right. What a horrific thing that poor family went through

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You know that’s a true story, right?

Lady lost a kid.

Tropic Thunder may have taught me that, but I’ll never not picture RDJ disguised as a dude playing another dude when I hear it.

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5 points

What do you mean you people?

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5 points

What do you mean you people!?

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This is actually something being debated in Australia. Until a few years ago, Dingoes were considered the same species as the regular dog Canis familiaris. Recent DNA studies have shown them to be distinct, however. So now there’s Canis dingo. Only, Dingoes can interbreed with the regular dog, which normally is the test for them being the same species. Maybe that makes them a subspecies?

So, yeah - even we don’t know what they are. If they were raised by humans, they are happy friendly doggos. If in the wild, then they’re dingoes.

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It depends if their progeny can reproduce. A male donkey and a female horse can make a mule but mules are sterile.

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Not that simple. Brown bears and polar bears produce fertile offspring, as do bison and cattle, and the false killer whale with a bottlenose dolphin. (Far from an exhaustive list)

It’s generally a useful definition but it isn’t a “rule”.

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Blue heelers are half dingo I believe.

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They are not, it’s just some breed representation thing, and they certainly look more dingoey than a Jack Russel, but at least in the United States, it’s likely to be trace amounts. Source, I own two, but admittedly neither have had any sort of genetic test so I guess my hearsay is as good as yours…I should find out, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they had up to a quarter dingo somehow.

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Canis Lupus and Canis Latrans also can and do breed with Canis Familiaris. The ability to interbreed is one test for being the same species but not the only test. Libraries worth of books are out there on the subject and there are lively debate as to where animals fit in the taxonomy.

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Canis familiaris is a subspecies of C. lupus as of 2005. There is a push to distinguish it as a distinct species but that is not the current consensus.

“Testing” for speciation is pretty silly, tbh, because it’s an arbitrary distinction no matter what. Our placement of rigid definitions onto the constant gradual process of evolution is always going to have edge cases and outliers. So we give things useful labels and move on until we have better tools (DNA analysis has been great) or have need of better definitions.

Does dogs being wolves do anything for the general public? No, but that’s what common names are for. Does the distinction of Canis lupus familiaris help scientists right now? Probably. If not there’d be a stronger push to change it.

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This is the good stuff.

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5 points

I didn’t know 1957 was only a few years ago

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In the scale of human lives, no. In the scale of human history, yeah. In the scale of planetary or universal history… it was a few seconds ago.

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So Australia just had evil stray dogs that adapted to the extreme Australian environment like every other evil thing in Australia, meanwhile in Russia you got stray dogs riding public transportation and learning to scavenge and beg. It’s all the environment.

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You’re a dumb cunt.

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3 points

Harsh, but true.

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Wolves are also nice doggos when raised by humans.

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Species is a social construct and debates like this prove it. People can’t agree what the line between different species is, because the line is socially constructed.

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There is no scientific debate in what a species is you dingbat. Sexual reproduction is the qualifier. Anything below is up for additional qualification.

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You’re being reductive, and I don’t think you believe the logical implications of what you’re saying. You don’t think horses are the same species as donkeys. And if you meant viable sexual reproduction, you shouldn’t have spoken so simply. Furthermore, your model rejects the speciation between homo sapiens and homo neandertalis, which is silly.

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53 points

B…but…if not friends why friendshaped???

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Don’t go to Tasmania either.

Look at this cute guy!

I want to hold him and pet him and love him and- OH FUCK!

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That thing looks like a devil.

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5 points

And indeed that’s what it is. Of the Tasmanian variety.

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18 points

Ah yes the ones that spin around real fast and make a miniature tornado.

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Aww, he’s yawning 😍

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incomprehensible noises and spitting intensify

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7 points

Would pet.

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And it would be the last time you would pet anything with that arm again.

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6 points

Yeah ngl that thing looks ugly as hell

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🤣 Nothing about either picture of that looks cute. It looks like a monster rat.

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And you haven’t even seen them in action https://youtu.be/H9IK-HEdaXg?t=761

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