139 points

Time to start voting with your wallet, by not buying any more of them!

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It’s an adiction man 😔…

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i switched to vaping with nicotine. zero problem. did not miss cigs for a second. Then I slowly reduced the nicotine over six months until zero. i’m now smokefree since 2 years after lighting up 30 cigs a day for over 20 years.

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16 points

I did the same thing after smoking almost as long, well done and congratulations!

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11 points

Nicely done! That’s how vapes should be used; as a means of harm reduction/tapering off, not as a ‘healthy’ replacement as some people view them to be.

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2 points

Did the exact same, although it was more like 20 cigs in 30 years. I was very heavily addicted, and got depression when I tried to quit earlier. I finally managed to quit after vaping a few years, and then reduce the dosis. I’ve been nicotine free for 5 years now.

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I did that same thing and went 5 years, somehow wound up back on vapes, and I can admit there wasn’t a day that went by for those 5 years I didn’t WANT a cigarette. Addiction is fucking powerful, and the only truly good option humans have is to never start in the first place. I don’t blame any adult smoker of any substance, but I try hard to tell young people not to start.

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7 points

Gum and patches really do work if you give it an honest try. I’m speaking from experience.

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In my experience, they don’t and e-cigs do. It’s different from person to person.

I haven’t smoked OR vaped for over 3 years after 18 years of smoking where I tried every other smoking cessation method including prescription medications.

Took me about three months of going from smoking to vaping high nicotine to gradually reducing to no nicotine and then not vaping at all.

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The success rate of quitting by using vapes instead of gum or patches is way way higher. Like a totally different rate of success.

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We don’t have those over here.

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4 points

Addictions can be broken.

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8 points

That is true, but it is hard.

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When I would take clients to a smoking cessation therapist, one fact that she would cite was the fact that quitting cigarettes is more difficult than quitting heroin.

I would also be told anecdotally by many of my clients that it was harder to quit than other hard drugs like meth and one person even said crack.

It can certainly be broken, but addiction is a disease and your comment could come off as condescendingly minimizing an incredibly difficult task.

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Okay, this might be a dumb question, but do different cigarette brands do (taste?) different?

Again, sorry of this is stupid.

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85 points

“I can excuse the lung cancer, but I draw the line at advertising!”

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If you work on not buying cigarettes anymore you avoid the ads and something for your health and your pocket. Triple win.

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Cigarettes are bad and all, but from a business standpoint this is pretty clever. The EU forbade them to put ads on the package, so they’re putting ads in the packages. I hope my appreciation of their ingenuity gives the some solace when they’re burning in hell.

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It’s not wrong to sell tobacco to a grown adult. An adult is responsible for their own choices.

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It is wrong to sell addictive substances to addicts.
Sure, adults have the right to smoke if they want. They are, of course, adults. But that doesn’t make it okay for tobacco companies to advertise harmful and addictive substances to anyone, least of all the people who are already addicted.

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Sure, adults have the right to smoke if they want

Even if it forces everyone in the vicinity to inhale that crap? Smoking has one distinct feature in that it harms not just the user, but everyone around as well.

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Being an addict does not make a person an invalid. An addict is still an adult capable of consenting.

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They are burning in hell for:

  • putting ads in my cigarettes
  • being a big greedy company

They are not burning in hell for:

  • selling tabacco in the first place
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“The findings of this report make it crystal clear: Big Tobacco is going all-in to target youth on social media and it has to stop,” said Yolonda C. Richardson, president and CEO of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. “Tobacco companies are among the most sophisticated advertisers in the world – marketing that reaches millions of kids does not happen by accident. Governments need to urgently address tobacco marketing online and ensure that social media companies are held legally accountable for the tobacco and nicotine marketing appearing on these platforms.”

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Are you a bisexual penguin from Germany?

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If everyone existed in a bubble then that would be true. Unfortunately your smoking affects others. If you only ever do it outside away from others then it’s probably only causing health problems for you, but that’s still putting load on the health system. However I’m overweight so it would be hypocritical of me to admonish you too much on that front. If you smoke indoors and near other people then you are making everyone smoke for your own satisfaction.

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bro if you think selling tobacco a product i both deeply enjoy and literally need to function sends peoope to Hell you need to go to confession

one catholic to another

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I don’t understand this take. You can enjoy a product but still understand that it brings more harm than good to society as a whole. I’m guessing tobacco is something you “need to function” because of the very fact that you regularly used it in the first place, probably at least partially due to the industry’s predatory practices.

Don’t get me wrong, withdrawal is an absolute nightmare I am blessed to never have experienced firsthand, but cases of lifelong dependence are why those companies should burn in the first place. If there were a way to get you and others like you what you need while wiping the rest of the industry off the face of this planet, I’d do it in a heartbeat.

If you genuinely enjoy smoking and believe tobacco has enriched your life, more power to you. Perhaps someone selling tobacco to people in your situation doesn’t bring harm, but selling that same product to someone who’s never smoked before and might potentially become hooked for life? Yeah, straight to hell. Fuck them.

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They aren’t talking about you the user, they’re talking about the ones making the cigarettes.

Also, I’m pretty sure suicide is a grievous sin in Catholicism no? Is the difference here that it takes a really long time? Or maybe it doesn’t count as suicide because without that cursed knowledge of cigarettes being bad for you, you’d never know you were killing yourself?

I’m just wondering where we draw the line here.

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You may want to chat with someone about that qualified to help you because that sounds like a potential addiction based on your wording

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29 points

Yet another reason to quit!

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but the smokers will never quit, those addicts will pay anything to make everyone suffer for their asshole decision

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