142 points

This is extremely vague with zero context.

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Right? There’s a lot to criticize the US government for, but I’m pretty sure that this is already how things work. No idea what OP is on about

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Why can’t I use explosives to fish?

Why is it illegal to spray people with gasoline?

If my company wants to dump toxins into the daycare, they should. There’s no laws for it.

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7 points

There are actually laws for all of those FYI.

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26 points

This has “park in handicap parking without stickers” energy

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5 points

Lemmy.world isn’t exclusive to the USA, but still yeah I think deregulators are almost always the worst type of politician.

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39 points

This also works as a corporate excuse to do whatever the hell they want to a community and the environment.

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15 points

This is the huge problem with the optics of Libertarianism as a whole. Thats why Liberal Progressive is a more common term because the right wing co-opts libertarian arguments in a pro-corporate way.

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16 points

DAMNIT THIS IS MERIKA I SHOULD HAVE A MISSILE LAUNCHER ON THE FRONT YARD BEN WASHINGTON WROTE IT IN THE CONSTITUTION

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7 points

Don’t forget James Hancock, Thomas Madison, and John Jefferson!

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6 points

Dude, I’m pretty sure it’s Steve Madison.

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5 points

founding randos

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2 points

I’m quite sure it was George Jefferson…

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11 points

Laws against victimless crimes come to mind.

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How far down before you don’t care about victims.

Technically running red lights are victimless

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Running red lights has a victim when someone gets hit in an intersection.

I’m talking about shit like laws against cannabis, where there are no victims at all, or against prostitution, where the presumed victims are the ones who get prosecuted.

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3 points

In general, traffic violations are not technically crimes, they’re civil matters, therefore there doesn’t have to be a victim. Also burden of proof is much lower.

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77 points

Justification is easy. Damn near no one does anything they don’t feel is justified. You may not agree with it, but that doesn’t really matter, because the right people will.

A lot of the most evil shit in history was done by people who felt completely justified in doing it.

Justification is a stupidly low bar.

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You’re missing the point. We don’t need to justify to the government why we need to do anything. The government needs to justify to us why it should be prohibited. Feeling justified in your own actions doesn’t come into it.

As for “the most evil shit in history”, it should be extremely easy for the government to justify prohibiting it.

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To any reasonable person it is extremely easy to justify prohibiting easy access to firearms. And yet here we are, with mass shootings happening every other day in the US.

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I say go the other way. Fucking people are trash and need to be babysat like fucking toddlers. Government is the only sensible people trying to keep it all together

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8 points

Government is the only sensible people trying to keep it all together.

That’s pretty funny, does that include your political enemies?

From my pov government is “just people” like the rest of us, they just happened to be elected by a bunch of trash toddlers to be “head trash toddler #24.”

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4 points

That’s called authoritarianism and it’s really unpopular for a reason.

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Government is horrible at policing individuals. Name one instance where involving the government in peoples daily lives has had a net positive impact. I’m not talking about social services either, I’m talking authority that has gone into the home and “baby sat” individuals.

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45 points

US Govt: Y’all shoot a lot of people. Let’s slow this down a bit. Some people: how about I shoot you!?

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38 points

Take cannabis for instance. They’ve ‘justified’ why it has been illegal, it’s just all the reasons were manipulated science and moral bullshit.

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30 points

Normal people have their behavior regulated by family, partners, and work. It’s only the ownership class and psychopaths who worry about being reined in by the government. Libertarians have spiders in their brains.

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28 points

Miscegny, abortion, sodomy, war on drugs…

There’s plenty of things the government has (and it’s trying to have) blocked that “normal” people should worry about

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Have you ever noticed the people who don’t want lead in the gasoline are not the same people who are trying to ban abortion?

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5 points

Regulations on business and production of resources don’t infringe on my personal liberties.

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1 point

So you’d fear a government that has banned abortion? Damn, you must be a psychopath or part of the ruling class or something.

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5 points

Some states making it illegal to be homeless. I’m sure the 14th amendment won’t be used for nefarious purposes… /s

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14 points

Hey this is the “I have nothing to hide” argument for privacy. I think wanting people to have freedom from suspicion by the government is based. You’re not gonna find me agreeing with any right wing “libertarian” positions like low taxes. My libertarianism is more about… Policing.

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I agree. I’ve been listening to behind the bastards a lot, and the host is basically a pretty radical dude in favor of maximizing personal and civic freedoms and social safety nets.

At this point I feel like we should be called the neo-libroanarchists or something. It seems like every political faction in the US is trying to restrict something just because.

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2 points

Social libertarians is what you’re looking for.

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2 points

The right wing think tanks have a deliberate strategy of stealing leftist words.

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8 points

It’s only the ownership class and psychopaths who worry about being reined in by the government.

I guess you forgot the badge-wearing fascists with itchy trigger fingers stalking your neck of the woods with the express purpose of visiting violence upon you if you step out of line.

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Who uses the badge wearing fascists to control you? The ownership class. Guess who is the ownership class? Not you and I.

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5 points

Username applies.

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2 points

Human nature is determined by material conditionsss

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Wow cool the most dystopian sentiment possible!

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