still better than the sequels. please put him back in charge, star wars is currently doing an MCU but even worse.
I’ve said this before and I think it needs repeating. Filoni is making better stuff than Disney did, and besides, the originals weren’t as good as nostalgia thinks they are. Filoni’s stuff is on par with the originals and like the originals its a great time for families and kids.
filoni did a great job making the clone wars. i’ll say that. i’m currently watching rebels and mandalorian S03 and am quite disappointed, as usual with newer star wars stuff.
the main thing is: they may not have a grand roadmap like i imagine george had. none of the newer stuff is really that coherent. it spends more time inventing new stuff that never gets expanded on instead of tying into the previously established lore.
the originals were never the greatest movies ever made, and that’s fine. at least it all made sense. it was all explainable. it was coherent.
i feel lost when watching post-2014 stuff, maybe because the lore isn’t established yet, but maybe because it just didn’t get thought through.
My biggest gruff with Disney is them declaring the extended universe non canon just to cherry pick details from it while ignoring the most exciting lore and shit.
Like the whole palpatine returning thing happened in the EU but was done in a much better way. Different materials like beskar were more fleshed out.
Disney literally had thousands of stories to draw inspiration from and chose to just come up with bullshit over and over again.
Hard disagree. Filoni made Ahsoka, which is trash. He’s the executive producer of The Book of Boba Fett, which is trash. He’s the executive producer and wrote some episodes of The Mandalorian, which started promising and then turned to trash. So yeah. He fits right in with anything Disney created.
Apologies for the wall of text.
Ehhh almost. The best Disney era stuff has been Mandalorian (S1) and Andor, which had, at best, Filoni consulting. Filoni’s stuff is good quality but it’s also fairly simplistic and self-referential, to the point of being almost masturbatory. I think Clone Wars is the best he’s produced and it’s 95% awful kids show with 5% very high quality storytelling mixed in, but I’ll give the benefit of the doubt since it was literally intended as a kids show.
Prequels and sequels were pretty terrible for opposite reasons, as another poster has already mentioned. The original trilogy is pretty high quality, I don’t think that’s even debatable. While New Hope was a pretty bog-standard chosen one/heroic epic story, and maybe/definitely just a rip-off of Hidden Fortress, it gets all the credit for the blend of Eastern and Western themes and concepts. Additionally, for absolutely stunning special effects for the era. Empire is just objectively a good movie, and is definitely when Star Wars peaked. It’s got excellent writing, directing, and cinematography, and did a phenomenal job maintaining the strengths of New Hope while doing a ton of work developing all of the characters and the universe. Jedi is… okay tbh. I put it about on par with the prequels although the Emperor is my favorite character.
The biggest problem imo with the Disney products lately is exactly that - they are clearly products intended only to capitalize on an already-successful IP, with nothing really to say nor any story to tell. Filoni doesn’t have this problem, but he does have the issues above. If Disney can focus on letting creatives tell the stories they want to tell in the Star Wars Universe instead of just churning out products, I think they’ll be okay.
Have you watched any of Star Wars Visions? I’m curious what you think about them.
On a related side note, my favorite Star Wars stories were always the ones from the Anthology ‘Tales from…’ books.
I Want Old Republic Movie content
Everything around the Empire and Fall and Fallout of the empire is so overtold.
If i have to see another low budget star wars series with darth vader i am gonna shit myself
IMO the prequel and sequels are about equal in badness. The odd thing was they’re bad in almost exactly opposite ways.
The prequels had a story to tell, but they broke down in the minutia. There was a solid core plot, but once we got to how things played out scene by scene the movies broke down. George knew how he wanted the story go, but he seemed to have no idea how to get from plot point a to plot point b.
The sequels were nearly directionless in story, but ever scene in their rudderless plot had good dialog, pacing and tone. It’s like a jigsaw puzzle that has a picture of static printed on it. Episode 7 was just a re-hash of 3, 8 had two weak plots glued together pushed forward by contrived urgency and episode 9 was just a mix of one-upsmanship threat level as well as trying to ret-con the previous two movies into a coherent story arc.
ever scene in their rudderless plot had good dialog, pacing and tone
“They fly now?”
Prequels and Sequels are about equal in badness the same way the “left and the right” are about equal in badness.
Despite it’s issues, the Prequels has iconic stuff, good world building. The sequels are a fucking mess with no redemptive quality.
Like Peter Serafinowicz said, there’s nothing kids love more than complicated trade negotiations.
Speaking of Peter Serafinowicz and kids, I’ve been showing my 13-year-old daughter Look Around You, the show he created with Robert Popper that (in the first season anyway) parodies 1980s educational TV shows brilliantly. I forgot how funny it is. Definitely find a copy if you’ve never seen it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0wHqNi3x5M
For those that haven’t heard it.
I’m probably the only Star Wars fan who didn’t care for Darth Maul all that much. He just seemed kind of like a one-dimensional villain.
then my question is: did you watch the clone wars? in the main movies, he was just the prealpha of darth vader. but in clone wars and rebels (although i have not finished rebels) he gets a lot more coverage.
still not my favorite bad guy in the franchise by far, but not a shallow character at all. then of course this is my opinion, and my watch-through of media covering him is a long time ago.
Why is that your question? Obviously I did if I could compare the amount of dimension his character had relative to the movie.
Rebels was great too. I just loved the long arc between Maul and Kenobi. Maul was like a revenant that just kept coming back until KenobiI finally defeated him on Tatooine. It struck me how Kenobi just moved on with life, but Maul’s sole focus was killing him.
That and outside of the movies you see how brilliant Maul was, mad, but brilliant. He came close to seducing Ashoka and Ezra to the dark side (although Ashoka saw right through him, it took Ezra longer).
And rebels. (I actually loved the scene where Obi owns him for a second time.)
It’s that lightsaber of his that pisses me off. It’s stupid. It’s like…. Worse than just having one blade.
At least it’s better than Grand Inquisitor from Rebels, that light saber doesn’t know if it wants to be a chakram, a twin blade or a big fan
At that point it was actually the 4th time - they fought on Raydonia with Ventress and Maul’s brother, and again on Mandelore during the Clone Wars. I feel like im missing an encounter, but Kenobi faced him for the last time on Tatooine in Rebels.
I think we should think of his lightsaber more like a bow staff than a blade. It became the standard for the Inquisitors in Rebels and other later parts of the various series
Not kind of. He showed up, he fought, he died. There’s no dimensions there. But he looked cool, had a new lightsaber, and was probably the first actor in Star Wars that actually knew how to fight IRL.
You mean Christopher “that’s not the sound a man makes when he is knifed in the back” Lee?
Fencing with a rapier is different from waving around something which cuts and burns through stuff without pressure with every side, and doesn’t have edges, and its resistance to movement stems not from gravity and aerodynamics, but from oxygen being burnt.
Though that’s fans overthinking it, it’s not like lightsaber fighting in SW was ever logical.
the first actor in Star Wars that actually knew how to fight IRL
That also goes for Liam Neeson, who had already had a badass sword fight, check out his climactic duel versus Tim Roth in “Rob Roy”. In fact, I believe that scene was key in his being considered for the part of Qui-Gon, I remember it being said at the time.
He was the setup for the need to find the next sith, Darth Vader
Unless my vague opinion doesn’t line up with Star Wars lore, in which case, retracted
I was always confused because I thought Dooku (Darth Tyrannus) was Sidious’s apprentice. He’s the one who arranged the clones to start being made 20 years before episode 2. But that would mean Sidious had two apprentices. Did they know that? Was Maul just given a title to make him feel better but was always seen as disposable?
If you watch the clone wars TV show (highly recommend) the character definitely has more depth than what was portrayed in the movies. If you’re interested in star wars character development. No better place to look than that show. You just have to suffer the first season a little bit. Since the series ages with it’s audience.
Was geriatric when they filmed the 2nd film. He wasn’t in the Phantom Menace.
yea no shit seeing 2 saber’s was kinda dope also the robot (i forgot his name) who could wield 4 lighsabers
But what about the droid attack on the Wookiees?
lol george lucas , i really liked maul but for some reason i liked qui gon more!!!
spoiler
the whole story could’ve changed if qui gon didnt die
anakin would’ve lived a happy life with padme anakin wouldn’t have to life his last of life thinking he killed his wife and padme didnt had to die thinking that anakin’s dead thus fulfilling anakin’s dream
