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This more than most sitcoms is just abusive relationships with a laugh track. Glad it’s not getting rebooted

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Also why I’d it that so many sitcoms decide to just have everyone be abusive dick wads? It’s infuriating to watch and I miss the more wholesome sitcoms

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17 points

People love when their dysfunctional family is on a tv screen and then they feel like they’ve done nothing wrong

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Meanwhile I can’t watch any of that shit because holy shit every character is so unbelievably hateful to each other and it’s not even in a fun well written way

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4 points

would you care to point out which ones didn’t feature abusive dickwads?

like that’s kind of a thing that goes back a long ways.

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4 points

Charles in Charge?

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When you say “more wholesome sitcom” i hear “more shitty sitcom”, like Growing Pains. which specific sitcoms are you referring to?

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4 points

I know it’s animated, but Bob’s Burgers is a great example of a current “wholesome sitcom” that’s really good.

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3 points

Most shows need a character to bully for some reason. I guess everyone in Hollywood just chooses someone in their life to verbally abuse and they think everyone else does that too?

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7 points

“Kevin can f*** himself” is literally about that very thing. It’s not amazing and does a weird thing where it bounces between sitcom mode and…I guess thriller mode, which doesn’t always work but I appreciated the way it dealt with the sitcom bullshit of abusive relationships.

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6 points

Yeah Debrah was awful to Ray and always nagging him

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You can’t replace Peter Boyle and Doris Roberts. But it would be cathartic to see Patricia Heaton with a daughter-in-law who is entirely inept as a cook and homemaker, and she has to resist the urge to become Marie while watching Ray become his father.

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25 points

Good.
It was barely funny when it first came out, and hasn’t aged well at all (I know because it’s on every fucking morning when there is literally nothing else to watch).
Keep the misogyny, toxic masculinity and heteronormativity, and abusive-bullshit-as-normal in the past where they belong - boomer humour needs to be allowed to die, not kept alive at any cost to fill a handful of greedy pockets and entertain bigots (cough cough Frasier cough cough).

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15 points

I never liked it to begin with so I’m ok with this.

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15 points

let things have their time. i understand the idea behind a lot of these revivals, but they’re often pretty bad. it’s not just about getting actors back and rebuilding sets. it’s about the writers and all the other people that work on these shows. i’m fairly happy with how the Futurama revival turned out, but they were already set up for it, and it was really just another joke about all the other times they got revived.

in the case of Everybody Loves Raymond, you don’t have Peter Boyle. without him the show would just be a shadow of its former self anyway.

sometimes it’s better to imagine these characters just riding off into the sunset.

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