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Is there anywhere that wasn’t or isn’t fucked up at some point in history?! Humans are shitty. Ancient humans were even worst (very boring, smelly and short life)

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I think that the roman intervention of Greece, led by Flaminio was totally justified, they did what they had to do. Nothing more, nothing less. Change my mind.

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Yeah, they said “at some point” and the Roman genocide in Carthage might be considered fucked up I guess.

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The third punic war for sure.

Edit: The fuck downvoted that? Cato the Elder in here?

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NATO intervention in Yugoslav wars, too. And American involvement in World War 2.

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Didn’t they also colonize the region and over the next several centuries crucify a bunch of people? Pretty sure one of them even became a martyr for what went on to be the most destructive and enduring groups of people for all time.

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Most countries act like sociopaths if they were held to individual human standards.

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And just like a big group of sociopaths, the nice ones wouldn’t last very long.

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wow you really do think that

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What about Ireland

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A country with a chapter in its history named “The Troubles” might not be the best pick here.

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I’m not Irish or British, but fow what I know I’d put a bit more blame on UK for the troubles. Don’t invade/colonize a country, don’t get troubles.

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They had a lot of problems with child abuse. I mean, most countries had, but theirs was somewhat more prominent. One of the less psychotic countries though, I guess.

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I mean Japan it this way with USA / Korea, and China probably as well? USA doesn’t really learn Asian history enough to get the backstory.

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US gets very little world history of any type. And what little it does get is whitewashed and only parts that relate to the US…

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Bold of you to speak for an entire population, bub.

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Don’t pretend it isn’t true.

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Can you please elaborate? I’m curious to know.

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In total, between 1965 and 1973, 312,853 South Korean soldiers fought in Vietnam; Vietnam’s Ministry of Culture and Communications in an unofficial investigation[6] estimated they killed 41,400 enemy fighters and 5,000 civilians.[7] After the Vietnam war, there were thousands of children of mixed Korean and Vietnamese descent, called Lai Dai Han, born of Korean workers or soldiers and local Vietnamese.[8] Reportedly, many resulted from widespread “My Lai-style massacres” that[9] involved the rape of Vietnamese Women by South Korean soldiers.[8] Various civil society groups continue to hope for a formal investigation and apology into these events.[10]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea–Vietnam_relations

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Wait they also never apologized but still pester Japan about it?

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Yikes so they literally did onto others what others have done to them.

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We really start needing to draft into combat roles the families of leaders. There would have been no Vietnam war if John John was deployed

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South Korean (ROK) soldiers were heavily involved in the US-Vietnam war and had a reputation for being effective but brutal. Maybe this is related to that?

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I mean, even from their own perspective, they’ve had a very unpleasant history, especially the last hundred-fifty years or so

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They’ve reached the point of deserving it. Modern Korean society is completely brainrotted by capitalist and right wing influence.

In the next 10-15 years we are going to see what real late stage capitalism is like, and it will be in South Korea.

A toast to the future.

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Are you a tankie or do you just think it’s cool and edgy having takes as immature as “government bad therefore they deserve it”

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It’s unnecessary to assume they’re a tankie. My guess is someone who has experienced that life first hand? If you’ve seen movies like Parasite you get an idea of mindset and culture OP is talking about. Of course it’s not all as extreme as OP says, but there are reasons why the term Hell Joseon is part of the culture there, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_Joseon

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Same with japan and korea ig

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