An aircraft heard sounds at 30-minute intervals from the area where the sub disappeared, according to internal e-mails sent to DHS leadership obtained by Rolling Stone

43 points

200+ migrants died on a capsized vessel and the Greek Coast Guard did not help. But yeah, I should really care about these five super rich people.

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This is pretty much how I feel. We don’t send these kinds of assets after normal people. But we send the navy and scramble everything we can over a handful of billionaires.

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19 points

How is that the fault of the people who are now in that sub?

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20 points

It’s hard to feel sorry for fabulously wealthy people who use their hoard for personal pleasure, while others die seeking basic needs that could easily be provided if everyone shared.

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16 points

Someone died once somewhere and therefore we shouldn’t care when other people might also die

Good contribution to the thread

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I do feel bad for the 19 year old that’s in there, though. That’s just so young.

One of the folks in there is the CEO of the submersible company, and I figure he’s having a FAFO moment right now.

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That FAFO. FOFA is Food On Face Alan, a guy my wife worked with at Pizza Hut 20 years ago.

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Yeah I’m not really sympathetic to the sheer quantity of resources being thrown at this situation. The same resources could be better applied to so many other unaddressed problems. These (mostly wealthy) people made a risk and are paying for it, why do the rest of us have to pay for it too?

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and this right here is why I feel so… uncarring. Okay, I feel sorry for the kid. He didn’t make an informed decision. but yeah, the others? They presumably knew the risks.

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Yep. These people only have that wealth because so many others have so much less.

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Nightmare fuel. Even if they find them, I don’t know if they can get them to the surface before the oxygen runs out.

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Assuming they’re on the bottom, they’d have to get a ship with about 4 km of cable to pull them up. (More probably. The titanic is at about 3.8km; as well as the ROVs

I’m not sure it has a hatch that can be used to transfer passengers onto a rescue sub. Kinda sounds like it doesn’t. (Assuming they even have a rescue sub in the area.)

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The Titan does not have an externally opening hatch at all. The surface crew actually bolts and torques the front section of the submersible in place.

Once/if the Titan is located (itself a huge challenge), the only way the Titan can be rescued is by either repairing the submersible underwater so that it can float to the surface under its own power or by affixing a 4km tow cable to it and winching it to the surface. Only at the surface can they crack it open without killing everyone onboard.

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28 points

Can we just dispose of all the billionaires this way?

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17 points

Being that deep, they’ll die of hypothermia before the oxygen runs out.

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3 points

Supposedly they have electric heating. Hopefully that system is still operational.

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1 point

I assume one of three things happened- they somehow got snagged on something coming and can’t pull free. (This makes little sense, since… any competent engineer wouldn’t have stuff to get snagged in the first place and there’s not much down there to get snagged on, except the wreck itself.)

They could have suffered a leak in the buoyancy tanks preventing their return, this seems a bit more likely.

Or they had a failure in the electronics- a short in the electrical system could leave them without power.

The banging rules out the fourth- a leak in the pressure vessel (which at depth they wouldn’t live long enough to know.)

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2 points

I dunno. We’re taking billionaires who thought it was a good idea to pay 250k for this experience… they might try and start a fire to stave off they cold…

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5 points

The sub has capabilities to surface. It’s probably snagged on something from it’s loose cables.

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2 points

That’s assuming that they haven’t imploded already

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25 points

A handful of really rich guys stranded at the bottom of the ocean with the CEO of the tour bus company … I can only imagine that conversation.

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5 points

“96 hours of air for five people, you say?” <brief struggle> “100.8 hours for four.”

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2 points

They’ll eat him first lol

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“A team out of the UK named Magellan has an ROV rated for 6,000 meters which is loaded on a plane and ready and waiting to help,” the email stated. “BUT THE US GOV and USCG have not yet given them permits to participate!”

Good ol bureaucracy.

For those who didn’t read the article - The Coast Guard does not have the equipment to even go deep enough. By now they’re tourists are probably dead, but there will be no rescue or retrieval of the submarine without outside help

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Doesn’t the sub have 96 hours of air or something?

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As an emergency supply, yes. However, it is unclear how much of it is left. People/news quote hour estimations, but it is anyone’s guess really. People in panic consume more oxygen. Additionally, it is still unclear what happened. For example, if they had a leak, they will probably have different problems than oxygen.

Let’s just hope that they manage to find them, at least in those 96 hours.

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3 points

If they had a leak their problems are over given the pressures involved.

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2 points

If they are not on the surface finding them is not the hardest part…

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Down to about 30 hours now.

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7 points

I’m afraid this is some sort of an Autistic Reporter Michael Falk situation.

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I see I’m not the only one thinking that.

Falk: “Why are… millions of dollars in resources, hundreds of people, and dozens of ships and airplanes being… used to look for the lost sub Titan?”

Rescuer: “Well, we are trying to find the submersible because it is lost.”

Falk: “Does the submersible contain… more oxygen or a way for the people trapped inside to get to the surface?”

Rescuer: “It has about 40 hours of air left, and there isn’t a way for the people to get to the surface.”

Falk: “And and and it will take many hours to get another submersible here?”

Rescuer: “… yeah…”

Falk: “I have good news. I have found the submersible. It is in the ocean below us. I have bad news. The people inside are dead. I am Michael Falk. I have found the lost Titan.”

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2 points

I’m not proud to have laughed at this.

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