DELANO, Calif. (AP) — “That ‘70s Show” actor Danny Masterson has been sent to a California state prison to serve his sentence for two rape convictions.

Authorities said Wednesday that the 47-year-old Masterson has been admitted to North Kern State Prison, and they released his first prison mug shot. The photo shows him wearing orange prison attire, with long hair and a beard.

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He’s lucky we live in a civil society.

I’d have voted to chemically castrate anyone convicted of rape and then put him in gen pop.

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You’re basically admitting you’re a shit person

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I’m admitting I’d support worse treatment for people who rape than what we do currently.

If that makes me a shit person. I’m ok with that.

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Username checks out.

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And you’re basically valuing the quality of life of rapists over that if their victims.

Unless you intend to rape somebody, what personal stake do you have in what form of punishment is appropriate for such a vile act?

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You (deliberately, it seems) have missed the point.

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42 points

So in your scenario, what happens if someone is wrongly convicted?

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Nobody is ever wrongfully convicted. We have the perfect system and it never ever makes mistakes.

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i just came from a post about OJ Simpson so believe me when i say everything this guy dudeman just said is true

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In this case, it might actually be okay if they’re wrongly convicted and chemically castrated rather than executed as chemical castration can usually be reversed (you have to scroll down a bit, but it’s mentioned).. It’s not like you burn off anyone’s genitals.

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“Just hormones.”

Anyone who has ever seen someone on hormonal medication knows that it can profoundly change your outlook and personality. Even birth control can have emotional impacts on people, and they may not even notice it because the medication is so normalized that people don’t see it as a potential problem.

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I guess we’re all going to slide past the gen pop as a shortcut to capital punishment. Makes the chemical castration kind of irrelevant, doesn’t it?

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2 points

Yeah the effects weren’t really reversible for Alan Turing.

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Oh that’s easy the supreme Court already said it doesn’t matter. Being convicted is enough even if you are truly innocent.

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In my scenario, the proof would have to be concrete so ideally there’s no such thing as wrongly convicted.

Proof like caught in the act, semen / blood sample and / or video proof like with child porn.

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Basically impossible unless people start raping people in the police station, even then good luck getting cops to collect evidence on eachother

Also semen… If I creampie my wife she can go claim rape? What about every other woman I’ve creampied? Why do you think any single piece of evidence could be strong enough for this sentence? Even a video could just be roleplay on it’s own.

You need to read up on how people are prosecuted before making suggestions how they should be sentenced.

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Literally all of that can easily be falsified, and historically has been to wrongly imprison people.

Caught in the act by the judge and jury themselves? Or by a witness who promises they saw it?

Video proof like what AI can easily fabricate these days?

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Oh, so never, then? Works for me.

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7 points

He hasn’t thought that far ahead. I’m guessing he’s the type with a lot of opinions and not many original thoughts

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Don’t worry Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher will bust you out

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Aston Kutcher, a celebrity famous for his philanthropy, says a man guilty of two rapes should have his charity taken into account.

In other words: A man with excess money, and who gives some of that excess to charity, says a person’s charity should balance out that person’s crimes.

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10 points

Well, what is Ashton hiding?

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36 points

“Well damn, Jackie, I can’t control the rapin’”

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Makes me think of a dark night in 2001…. 🤔

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A person’s deeds are always relevant to sentencing.

If it was relevant to guilt, that would be obviously problematic. If it’s relevant to 25 years instead of 30, that’s fine.

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If using a charity is something Ashton thinks you can use as a get out of jail free card, then what fucking shit does he do, he’s been helping with that anti sex trafficking thing, that’s a big ol get out of jail free card in Ashton’s mind.

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I think it’s the personal connection that makes him find reasons to consider Danny’s side of things more charitably. I sort of accept that he is just a dumb Hollywood guy with a soft spot for a friend. Except for one thing…

He’s involved with fighting human trafficking which ought to give him a pretty clear perspective regarding sexual assault victims. That’s what I can’t reconcile.

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Let’s have some devils advocate! Everybody loves devils advocate. Just real quick before I start cooking, I just want to say that rape is bad and there’s no excuse. That’s important and I’m not going to use it in my examples. Murder though - that’s basically fine, I think.

A lot of crimes amount to one bad decision. A life of being a really good person and then one time you murder someone, then jail forever? (Well, yes, but actually no - first time offenders don’t get life in prison, even for murder.)

Even if you have a dark side that you’ve been keeping under wraps, that’s actually good! If there are people with dark sides, what we want is for them to not act on it - sociopaths, pedophiles - like, if we take for granted that these are conditions which occur in people and there’s no cure, what we want is for them to not act on it.

But, one day, you fail, your dark side gets out and you do one of the horrible things you’ve been trying not to do; then it’s easier to do it again, and again, and suddenly you’re a serial killer. 40 years of being good despite a very difficult challenge, to suppress that darkness, but the rest of your life, you’re judged for the few bad decisions you made in moments of weakness.

Let’s talk about Ebeneezer Scrooge. Tis the season after all.

That dude was a total dick for like 60 years, but, in the end of the story, he’s changed - it’s a redemption story. But his name, Scrooge, is a commonplace synonym which characterizes him as a villain; fuck his redemption, he lived most of his life as a dick, and we remember him that way.

So which is it? Do we judge based on most of their lives, or do we judge based on a recent set of decisions which severely depart from that? Or do we just go with whichever was worst?

When it comes to Ashton Kutcher, like, even a serial killer isn’t murdering literally every moment of their day. They have jobs, they go to the store. All that time, that person is being a good person, they’re suppressing their darkness. It’s easy to see a person in that light when that’s how you’ve seen them for basically your entire adult life.

That said, Ashton Kutcher is a rich TV star so basically all his opinions are invalid. He probably only helps victims of sex trafficking because his PR team thought it would be a good fit for his brand. Not to say he doesn’t like helping - I’m just saying fuck that guy. Fuck all those guys.

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24 points

Maybe he just doesn’t want to believe because he knew him for so long.

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Could it be a shot at rehabilitation?

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Involved in? You mean his accountant and manager got together and made a list of charities to give to that would be good for his image.

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Yeah. He’s had to look at reams of CASM as part of this for some reason. He also opposed encryption. He does these things for the children so that may might… Get unmolested? I don’t know. He’s kind of fucked.

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I mean I personally feel most people like to think they’d immediately disown any friends that do stuff like this but I’d bet in reality a lot of people would do the same thing.

It’s a lot easier to pass judgment when you’re not emotionally involved. Same reason why people stay in abusive relationships. On the outside it’s cut and dry but sadly emotions are a thing.

I’m not defending Masterson nor am I saying Kutcher isn’t in the wrong by defending him. I’m just trying to bring to light that humans are emotional before they’re logical.

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“Dude, where’s my moral center?”

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I really don’t like how much hate they got for this

If someone you love does something horrible, the emotions don’t just disappear. It’s like grief, people have to work through it, and it happens in different ways.

For them, their long time friend has done something to (for them) hypothetical victims. They asked for leniency in a non-public way…

It’s an extremely human thing to do. It doesn’t live up to their ideals, but it doesn’t invalidate everything they’ve done

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Are those two on a speedrun to be the most unbearable couple?

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I nearly read “North Kern” as North Korean

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Talk about a dramatic way to put him in a place nobody knows who he is

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18 points

We’ve known for months he’s going to prison. This is just media porn.

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Seeing people actually punished for crimes like this should always be celebrated as many rapes go unreported

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he’s fucked, Prison sucks, but California Prison system really, really sucks

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i’ve heard the racial stuff is really intense… so you either end up an Aryan Nation type, or you end up being bitched out by everyone else…
but, since he’s rich and famous, he’ll probably get special treatment and be able to buy protection (like Jared Fogle)
i’ve also heard that prisoners all hate rapists

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i’ve also heard that prisoners all hate rapists

Such noble creatures these prisoners are…

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not noble… but they tend to hate certain types of criminals more than others…

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