44 points

I hope this is his swan song. Patrick Stewart is amazing, and I love Captain Picard, but he’s not Harrison Ford. The franchise will be fine without him. We don’t need to play out Too Short a Season in real life

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38 points

Three seasons of PIC were already a mistake. The only good thing coming from it is the possibility of a Riker cooking/baking show (which I would totally watch).

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24 points

In rewatching the original series and TNG thereafter, the consistent factor, regardless of the early special effects, was the scripts. The dialogue was always great. In ST: Picard, the dialogue is trash.

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15 points

Everything about ST Picard is trash. Dialogue, script, Character behavior, 50 years of fransche history ignored, it was all written and executed by people who don’t like star Trek, cast excluded though I just don’t understand why any of the vast was on board with this turd. We’re they so desperate for money?

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13 points

The sitcom The Rikers as pitched by Sirtis and Frakes would have been better that the three seasons of Picard, frankly.

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9 points

2 seasons were a mistake and by far the worst trek seasons from any show, the third season while being massive fan service was just what I seemingly wanted as I loved every second and was a great ending to the TNG crew

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5 points

I just watch the third season and pretend all of the random references to the early seasons happened in a more logical way.

I knew somebody who was running a “what could have been” Star Trek TTRPG campaign based around episodes of Voyager that could have been executed better, I think I would love to run a campaign that had plot elements from Picard’s first two seasons as a personal headcanon.

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5 points

I think the difference between Stewart and Ford is that Stewart seems more to be doing it because he enjoys this character. Ford seems to be doing it in spite of his feelings.

As long as Stewart is still having fun, I’m happy with him continuing as long as he wants.

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1 point

@Infynis Swan Song? So it will be a Musical Film?
Sorry, could not resist

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1 point

@Star Trek Um, maybe a SNW movie where Picard meets Pike?

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25 points

No. Please, no.

The Picard show was already dreadfully bad and has effectively destroyed TNG and Q for me, please let the dead body rest on piece, no more.

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9 points

Did you watch Season 3 of Picard?

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14 points

It’s dreadful. Just gathering up the old cast for nostalgia sake. Quite an anticlimactic resolution to the enemy fight too.

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7 points

That’s fair. I enjoyed it, but I can see why you wouldn’t. Hopefully we can agree at least 3 was better than 1 & 2.

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4 points

Season 3 worked because of the ensemble cast, though. The first two where it was “Picard and Friends” felt weird, and not like what anyone really wanted, and if this is another “Just Picard” thing it’s likely to end up the same.

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2 points

I agree. Picard Season 3 felt like it should have been the final TNG movie, but I’m actually glad it was episodic since it gave better pacing for gathering the cast together.

It was a lot of fam service, but in a good way imo

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3 points

Oh man, I’d repressed the memory that Q was in s2 of Picard! I kind of liked the first season but the follow-ups were nostalgia dumpster fires. Literally what Sir PatStew said he didn’t want to make going into the show.

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20 points

I prefer to think that Picard is just still stuck in the Nexus and everything that has happened to him since has been a result of magic Nexus fever dreams.

Movie Picard and PIC Picard acted nothing like TNG Picard to the point where they were seemingly completely different people. Movie Picard wanted to make the Borg pay for what they did and literally beat in dead Borg with his fists and snapped the Borg queen’s spine in two with his bare hands while TNG Picard knew things weren’t that cut and dry and even had an opportunity to potentially genocide the works of them and didn’t because ethics and shit. Movie Picard would have drove Hugh up to their doorstep infected with the fractal virus the first chance he had.

PIC Picard… is literally an android I guess? But still old? They kind of ignored that later. So, literally he isn’t the same Picard as TNG Picard.

The Nexus is my head canon.

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I… Don’t hate this. He meets Kirk too, which could be captain wish fulfillment. After his nephew is killed in such a stupid way he just exits reality and never returns.

First Contact, like you said, is revenge on the Borg and saving Earth.

Insurrection is then him inventing the perfect woman to save and finding the fountain of youth.

Nemesis he fights an evil, young version of himself, which has gotta be worth a few years of therapy.

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10 points

Did not expect that.

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5 points

I thought we had seen it all.

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7 points

“Yes, and she’s scrabbling around to get them back on again, but even before she can get her knickers on, I’ve seen everything. Yeah. I’ve seen it all.”

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3 points

But I’ve seen everything anyway. And I get on my bike and I ride off. On the grass.

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9 points
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I gave up watching Picard at the end of Season 1 after

spoiler

they kill Picard and replace him with an android.

If it’s not actually Jean-Luc, I’m not interested. And I’m definitely not interested in returning to Picard’s universe with all of those boring ass characters if it means that they’ll do another time-travel plotline to save his life. Yawn.

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18 points

Season 1 and 2 sucked ass, but season 3 is actually pretty great and you can watch it as a stand alone without really needing to watch the previous 2 seasons.

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4 points

Season 1 was such absolute dog shit. The orbital defense flowers, “JL” etc… but yeah, S3 feels like Kurtzman got kicked in the sack and someone else made Picard. I recommend watching S3 and forgetting the other two were ever made.

Also in S1 Jean Luc Picard picked a bar fight. The person that had his dick dragged through a mile of broken glass getting killed by a Nossican over and over in a bar fight, went to pick a bar fight. What was that show?

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3 points

I strongly disagree. It had promise, but was ultimately very stupid. The entire show uses “Borg” as an excuse to explain away ridiculous concepts that are far-fetched and more akin to magic than technology.

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2 points

season three was passable at best. people only say it was good because the first two were so unbelievably dogshit

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2 points

I tried but it feels so shallow.

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5 points

Picard had a lot of promise, and they almost got it, but overall it was trash IMO. More Star Wars and hand waiving than Trek. It was a beautifully made universe, the SFX were superb, but they seemed to spent all their time and money on that, and none on dialogue or character consistency. Picard is nothing of his former self. He spends three seasons whining and complaining rather than commanding. The writers invent a traumatic backstory for him, depicting his authoritative personality as a character flaw as a result of trauma, rather than a strength of character. I rather disliked what they did to him.

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3 points

Season 2 was arguably worse.

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