76 points

Seriously, what’s the point of government if not to HELP US. We didn’t invent government to make our lives more difficult. We invented it to keep our shit together. For us. As a property of its existence.

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10 points

Only if you hold them accountable for what they do.

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Seriously, what’s the point of government if not to HELP US.

We would get surprisingly far if we got to a place where the government didn’t actively hinder us.

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3 points

Hinder us how?

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20 points

Off the top of my head:

  • removing school lunch programs
  • removing women’s reproductive rights
  • dragging feet on legalizing marijuana
  • gerrymandering certain states/districts to keep one party in power
  • politicians being bought by the highest corporate bidder

Those are all pretty big ways in which the government hinders the population at large.

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1 point

…of, by and for The People. Greatest work of fiction ever written.

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Eh, we DIDN’T invent government. Government invented itself to control and exploit us. They do so to the degree of our tolerance levels and the level to which we are manipulated.

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11 points

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

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I don’t think quoting a bunch of slave-owners and misogynists who did none of all that is proving the point you’re trying to make.

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no, we did invent the government, or do you really think that for however bad this is, the literal warlord nobility that predates it was Superior?

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63 points

Wasn’t JFKs speech supposed to be about not seeing a community only for what you get out of it?

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Do you understand how offensive that concept is to a market capitalist?

They don’t even want to fund public schools, and they get a pre-literate workforce out of that.

“Whats in it for me” would be our national slogan, if it wasn’t already “fuck you whether or not I got mine.”

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That might be what the speech meant in context, but the quote alone sounds like something Animal Farm’s Napoleon would say to Boxer.

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American’s vote for the government and fund it with their taxes. To believe it’s a system with any other purpose than to serve it’s citizens is assenine.

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Actually, citizens pay taxes to avoid going to jail or, in the olden days (perhaps soon to be reintroduced), to avoid being killed on the spot.

They vote because when you are locked in a room with no way out, you’ll push one of the buttons in front of you frantically - trying to figure out if, perhaps, they are pushed just like this, you’ll get out.

When you’re not paying taxes or voting, someone richer than Smaug from the Hobbit is cashing in on the rest of your life.

To call this a system that serves its citizens seems… I’m not sure what to call it. Naïve? Misguided? Uninformed?

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3 points

better than what we had before the whole government thing, if you think this is bad, wait until the warlords come kill you, enslave your children and use your wife as a baby production machine

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The warlords are also a government. However, the fact that warlords emerge when government fails shows that government is inevitable, so the best you can do is try to have a good one.

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I don’t think you get the comic, or understood how my comment was responding to it.

Also, this is just really condescending. If you’re going to be on the left, you have to learn how to argue in a way that actually convinces people you’re ideas are better. This just makes you sounds like a jerk.

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19 points

If they’re going to steal 30%+ of my income, I expect something more than a DC pedo party and constant war.

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15 points

it’s supposed to be ironic ?

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I think so.

That Kennedy quote has always been a puzzler.

Not in meaning, but why the hell it’s supposed to be some kind of American ideal to aspire to.

“Take what we give you and beg to serve” seems a more honest phrasing.

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5 points

It’s more about helping your fellow man, not the government.

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You rarely see any thing else from that speech. If they’d just show even the part right after the “ask not” part it would help.

And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country.

My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.

-JFK Inaugural Address, January 20, 1961

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