The commies are proven right every damn time. It’s like we’ve got some sort of clairvoyance.
In the sense of being new information, this isn’t news. Israel wanting to decimate the population of Gaza isn’t news. There being US-backed nazis in the Ukraine wasn’t news, nor was Zelesky beinga puppet who’d destroy his country, the US wanting war with Russia, there not being a genocide in Xinjiang, Iraq not having WMDs, Saddam not being behing 9/11 and so on and so on.
It’s not news to us but it is news to the majority of the population here in the West who for decades have not been exposed to anything other than the lies of the liberal imperialist propaganda apparatus.
I am just wondering how western elite thought that Russia gaining all the Donbass, kherson and others would be beneficial for them. Lol 😂 . This ukraine thing is the biggest loss for the West and US
Initially they really deluded themselves into thinking they could defeat or at least severely degrade Russia. Instead all they managed to do is make Russia much, much stronger in all respects: militarily, economically and diplomatically.
The West all but admits the first two, and the only reason they still can’t see the last is because they are stuck in their bubble where they think that the entire “international community” consists only of the West and its vassals.
I’ve been under the impression that the game plan was to use Ukraine as a quagmire to tie up Russia, test new technologies, force the EU into an even more subservient, buffer state role, and use Ukraine as a martyr to rally Russophobic Western sentiments and manufacture consent for new “security” measures in the West that would further silence opposition. I feel the ultimate goal was really China - using the martyred Ukraine as a call to arms to “save Taiwan”, as it were (the news painting Russia as villainous made a big deal of effort trying to tie China to everything Russia did in the war, and comparing the situation in Ukraine to the situation with Taiwan).
It’s the only thing I could think of that made any kind of sense. The only alternative is that they genuinely believed Ukraine could have beaten Russia with only military aid. I don’t doubt some people in positions of power could be convinced of that, but at the highest levels I have to believe this was just another attempt by the US to keep Russia off-balance enough that the US could try and cut China down.
Not really, the whole point was to destroy Europe.
The US simply cannot afford to have Europe backing China in the coming showdown between the two giants. Nord Stream 2 construction was completed in 2021, and its certification kept getting delayed to prevent the Europeans from gaining energy sovereignty, after which they will no longer need to be dependent the US. Hence the war in Ukraine was needed to sever the connection between Europe and Eurasia.
The Ukraine war was dragged out precisely to allow this strategic goal of the US empire to be achieved.
- Ukraine gets goaded into conflict with Russia *
Ukraine: We’re Western, yes?
The west: *big thumbs up * Yes!
Ukraine loses 100,000 soldiers
Ukraine: We’re Western, yes?
The west: *big thumbs up * Yes!
Western powers shovel military hardware into Ukraine
Ukraine: We’re Western, yes?
The west: *big thumbs up * Yes!
*Ukrainian politicians openly discuss Nazi talking points with Western politicians who feel the same way *
Ukraine: We’re Western, yes?
The west: *big thumbs up * Yes!
Ukraine loses half a million soldiers
Ukraine: We’re Western, yes?
The west: *big thumbs up * Yes!
Western powers begin losing interest as the consequences of the war on them are getting untenable
Ukraine: desperately We’re Western, yes?
The west: I’m sorry babe not tonight, I have a headache
Gotta wonder if we’re going to be reading Op-Eds from Netanyahu heads in a few years.
Something about how the Israelis were ready to pull back, but they just kept getting green flags from Blinken and Biden to push further into Gaza territory.
Didn’t Ukraine literally execute the peace negotiation people?
Is the Times of Israel a good source for this? Their sources are two tweets and a Facebook post along with the heavy use of the word “alleged”.
It’s been fairly widely reported at the time even in western media. I was just too lazy to dig for a better source.
“by something or someone”
Come on you cowards! Say the names! Boris Johnson on behalf of Emperor Joe
