38 points

So what do we do, all fork the repos and upload the source to archive.org?

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Doesn’t sound like a bad plan

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Two repos:

Fork that shit. Upload the source anywhere you can think. Do crime.

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9 points

Let’s hear Barbara SING!

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27 points

That would be illegal, and you should absolutely not do that. Just like you shouldn’t clone the invidious repos just in case (/s)

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It may or may not be illegal, they’re just throwing their weight around under the suggestion that it’s illegal. Knowing well that a single dev working on a plugin in their freetime isn’t likely to want to invest in legal proceedings.

Which is even more reason to do the above, to stick it to them.

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4 points

yeah. just because they say so doesn’t mean that it’s actually illegal. they all always like to throw those legal threats anywhere they see fit.

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6 points

Streisand Effect this bitch.

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I haven’t seen any notice, sounds legal to me.

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It wouldn’t be illegal if you hosted it in a country where there is no law against such a thing, and/or Haier does not have any presence which would grant them legal standing. Is anyone running a server farm in Sealand yet?

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Why would it be illegal? A cease and desist is just a fancy letter saying do what we want or else we’ll go crying to a judge. If the original dev hasn’t done anything wrong (I’m not familiar with the project but I’d still say that’s highly likely to be the case) then there’s nothing to worry about. So make all the clones you want, and watch a dumbass company Streisand itself

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5 points

Yes i know, it is why I am telling you NOT to do it. Nope. Don’t do it. At all.

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3 points

If I were the dev, I’d want to either comply or get a lawyer, and getting a lawyer is expensive.

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88 points

“Hey! We were gonna charge a subscription for that! Fuck you for doing it first, competition is not allowed.”

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16 points

Does homeassistant even charge a subscription?

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45 points

No, its free an open source, but it out competes their spyware

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6 points

The software is free, and you would never need to pay anything to get set up great system for yourself. In addition to that, they also offer a service that you can subscribe to that gives you some benefits. You can replicate all the functions on your own, I believe, but the service makes it extremely simple.

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Home assistant does not, but Haier would rather you use their proprietary SmartAir2 app that vacuums up every tiny bit of personal data for resale, and could potentially turn into a subscription service later.

Mind you smartair2 has a 1.4 star rating on the play store if that tells you how well any of their software and devices work lol

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7 points

Frigidaire’s is just as bad

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They do, but only if you want to go through their servers for access outside of your network.

I do it mostly to support the project.

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IMO, it’s also worth the yearly cost for voice integration with Google Nest/Home or similar devices. Both can be done without paying but it’s so much easier and I know it’ll be supported over time.

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My non-expert take on this:

Haier claims these plugins cause the firm significant financial damage

Don’t care. Competition is not damage.

violate copyright laws

Prove it.

plug-ins developed by you […] that are in violation of our terms of service

The plug-ins never agreed to your ToS. Better sue your customers instead.

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92 points

Yeah they have no legal basis for their ridiculous claims and demands. This company is just full of shit.

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97 points

Hijacking the comment to say: Fork the shit out of this repo immediately. Fuck Haier.

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37 points

Ghetto fork it. GitHub will nuke the forks done via the fork button with the initial DMCA

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31 points

Fork it on a different platform - GitLab or something like it - we really should diversify our code repos. Microsoft has too much power with GitHub

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5 points

Move that shit to Gitlab and have some of it saved offline for good measure.

Make it like the Barbara Streisand effect but for a FOSS project lol.

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1 point

I’ll fork it on my forgejo instance

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It is likely costing them more from whatever cloud service their platform is hosted on.

But, that’s on them for not putting locks on their api.

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7 points

Good news is there is a lot of forks that were made by various users. I have a copy of the source…

Unfortunate news is that development is likely stopping so if they change the API I don’t know if there are any fellas that will come around to fix it…

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12 points

Usually, the open source community finds a solution for everything

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Awesome! This is why I love the Lemmy community.

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38 points

The mistake is forking and hosting it on GitHub. If Haier sends GitHub a DMCA takedown notice, they will comply, and the forks will be deleted too. Use other hosting services for redundancy and keep a local copy.

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3 points

Might put it on torrents as well.

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I don’t think there’s a copyright component to this. DMCA isn’t on the table

Haier were implying that they might sue if the developer didn’t take it down

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Good point. Nothing in the article explicitly states that it’s a copyright claim, but they do mention “protecting… [their] intellectual property”. In any case, it’s always easier for the website host to fold to cover their own asses than to continue hosting the content.

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