Even the catastrophic scenario means Ukraine loses lots of territory (Odessa) but is still able to stabilize the front and survive.

“rules-based world order”

Catastrophic sounds pretty good to me

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If they’re convinced that Russia will invade again if Ukraine is not in EU/NATO, then Russia wouldnt be interested in a peace negotiation in the first place since Russian domestic support for the war is still high and the Ukrainian position is increasingly untenable even with Western support. If the Russian goal is to annex everything up to the Polish border, they wouldn’t stop now when Ukraine is at its weakest.

It only kind of makes sense if you believe that Russia has lost 9 gorillion men and is about to run out of munitions (any day now, Bellingcat!). Therefore, whoever prepared this chart is fucking delusional either way you slice it.

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Where the fuck do they keep getting this idea that Russia is going to “keep invading other countries”?

They really do live in an alternate reality

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NATO-heads love invading countries for flimsy reasins, so they just think everyone else is into that too

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Their historical geopolitical knowledge is limited to Hitler so any opponent automatically becomes an untrustworthy Nazi who’s hell-bent on conquering all of Europe.

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Except for actual Hitler, who was a misunderstood smol bean trying to save the rest of Europe from those ontologically evil Russians

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They have a caricature of Putin in their minds that they are convinced is real.

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They live in a self-justifying world of “If we don’t do it, they will” just your basic saltinaler colonialist reasoning.

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Catastrophic is like, the best outcome here.

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NATO heads live in a bizarre reality

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Lmao compare “very bad” to the outcome of Korean War.

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