Even the catastrophic scenario means Ukraine loses lots of territory (Odessa) but is still able to stabilize the front and survive.
“rules-based world order”
Rules based world order has to be the stupidest dogwhistle ive ever heard for western hegemony.
Where the fuck do they keep getting this idea that Russia is going to “keep invading other countries”?
They really do live in an alternate reality
Their historical geopolitical knowledge is limited to Hitler so any opponent automatically becomes an untrustworthy Nazi who’s hell-bent on conquering all of Europe.
I love how they consider Trump being elected to be an apocalyptic outcome. Liberal brainrot strikes again.
So what happens in the perfect scenario? Russia gets another Yeltsin in charge who sells off their industries for scrap, like what happened in Ukraine? Navalny or some other fascist gets in charge?
What’s Russia look like in 10 years?
What’s Ukraine look like after it’s been immiserated by the fire-sale of it’s state-run industry, schools, ports, and powerplants, predatory loans, war, and is politically locked into the right, having banned all leftwing parties?
What’s Ukraine look like in 10 years?
It is odd how there are more details in the “catastrophic” scenario than the “perfect” one. Like, what does the defeat of Russia truly mean?
I think regardless of the outcome, Ukraine will be the poorest/most exploited country in europe lol.
Moldova was worse, Ukraine was second-worse. It changed something like one month into the war and since then it’s getting worse still for almost 2 years.
Maybe? I could imagine a divided Ukraine where Western Ukraine gets the Marshall Plan treatment and Russia supports development of Eastern Ukraine. Then again, maybe capital is so advanced it’s no longer capable of even that.
Except there is no chance for Marshall plan, if anything USA is pillaging Germany and rest of EU in revrsed Marshall plan now.
if this were the 50s, they would do that. i dont think they have the political will (or brain) to do a marshall plan on western ukraine at this point.
Catastrophic is like, the best outcome here.
