73 points

Universal basic income and universal healthcare so I (and everybody else) don’t have to worry about a job, being able to work, retirement, disability, and employers will have to offer meaning, increased quality of life, and actual respect to attract employees.

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These social safety nets would be a huge win for worker’s rights too. If you can tell a job to go fuck itself on the spot, they can’t operate without treating people right.

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65 points

The day I got signed on for 120k was the day all my financial anxieties went away. I’m not rich by any means. My rent is still stupid high. My bills never stop coming in. But I can finally afford furniture. I can finally afford to visit my family when I want to. I don’t worry about min-maxing at the grocery store. I’m not “happy” but it’s the closest I’ve ever been

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Being able to walk into a store and drop 50 dollars on something on rare occasion without having to have a panic attack and spend the day before doing in depth financial analysis and math, I cant imagine how much healthier my life would be without that stress.

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That sounds like a pretty good number to me too. Currently quite a bit lower.

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Congratulations! I’m surviving but without furniture lol.

I’ve got a little bit of disposable income, but just had to go out of network for a surgery because my insurance is weak.

I don’t really have financial worries either though. What’s weird is I make just under $50k now, but the most I ever made was $110k, and at that time I had financial stress. Now is the first time I’ve ever gotten off the paycheck-to-paycheck cycle.

But my financial success currently stops at furniture, so I know exactly what you’re saying. I’ve got a futon, a 5x7 rug, a table, a dining chair, and an armchair. The futon and the rug are the only ones I paid for; the rest was free from craigslist. I carried that damn furniture for miles. Well I had a vehicle for the armchair.

Next thing, after my savings recovers from the surgery, is a 7x9 rug to fill the other half of my main living space, so I can cut down on the creaking boards. Then padding for under the rugs. Then finally another dining chair so I can invite someone over for dinner.

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-29 points

120k what? Bananas per hour?

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11 points

Dumb questions per fortnight

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3 points

That is far too many bananas. You wouldn’t even be able to sell them fast enough.

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1 point

Bananas are for eating my friend

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58 points

UBI paid for by liquidating billionaires

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34 points

UBI paid for by liquidating liquifying billionaires

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the logistics of this are a little iffy. People don’t really melt, they burn

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22 points

They don’t need to be melted, they can be forced through a fine mesh instead.

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6 points

We need to utilize the expertise of the hydraulic press channel for this task. Spaghettifying billionaires sounds very therapeutic.

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2 points

They will be the luckiest of all.

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1 point

Like that one Pink Floyd music video

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Heat is not the only means of liquidation. If you apply sufficient pressure, they will indeed melt.

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2 points

Take 1 trillion dollars from the billionaires in total, now distribute 1K to each person each month? Sounds great but you run out of money in only 3 months. Then what?

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Sounds great but you run out of money in only 3 months. Then what?

We won’t because billonairs don’t hold the knowledge to run factories, they just monopolize infrastructure and collect a toll. We won’t run out of money because the production is still there.

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Then maybe our source of money should be that production, and not the personal wealth of billionaires?

Like, if you make a car that runs on diesel, and there’s a gallon of diesel in the world, you’ve made a car with 1 gallon of fuel.

If you make UBI that runs on the contents of billionaires’ bank accounts, and there’s three months’ worth of money in those bank accounts, you’ve made UBI that works for three months.

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Enjoy the fruits of liberated market. /s Honestly though you assume that the only value of liquidating assets from billionaires is getting their dollar amounts moved from on bank to another. There is a reasonable assumption that freeing up that capital to be enthusiastically invested or utilized to meet demands would provide more economic growth than it sitting in large hoards being spent in most risk adverse ways or in near total whimsy.

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There is also a reasonable assumption that taking away people’s money would result in a decreased expected value from future money, leading to a decrease in the motivation to produce that we currently enjoy.

Let’s say a person goes from having nothing to having $1M in the bank. How does a person do that? Well, in a free market they do that by providing $1M worth of value to other people.

Should that person, who we know is capable of providing serious value, go on to try to have two million? It would be good for our society if they did, so we’d better hope they do.

But if our history includes a day when all the billionaires had everything taken from them, this means that they now have to ask themselves if there’s any danger of going over the threshold, become “evil” in the eye of society, and stripped of their rights.

Suddenly being rich is quite dangerous. It alters the incentives. Assuming a very straightforward connection between potential reward and motivation, it could be very bad for the economy to liquidate the richest people’s accounts.

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45 points

I earn enough, I’d rather just halve my hours.

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And, did that work out for you?

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39 points

The more money I make the sooner I can stop working.

So bigger salary = bigger happy. Always. There’s no number that is “enough”.

I enjoy my job, so working 20 more years isn’t that onerous.

But I’d rather retire tomorrow than work for anyone else.

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Honestly? If I won the lottery today I would still work. I really really enjoy my work. It keeps me focused and motivated. My problem is having my livelyhood tied to the wims of a chaotic prideful coke filled VC

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That’s fair, and also true for me.

I enjoy laboring. I do not enjoy working for others.

I’ve got endless amounts of side projects that I never have enough mental energy for because the job saps it all.

When I got laid off last year I had about a month between jobs where I got to just do whatever I wanted. After about a week of decompressing I started working 5ish hours a day on side projects, because I wanted something that was more mentally stimulating.

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14 points

There’s no number that is “enough”.

A quadrillion dollars per minute ought to be enough for anybody.

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12 points

See that means I would instantly retire, so I wouldn’t be working.

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6 points

You would work until you got your first paycheck. If it were a job that paid you under the table you could theoretically work a single shift. Best job ever.

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1 point

Putting that much money into circulation would cause hyperinflation and then a gallon of milk would cost 10 quintillion dollars and you’re back to square one.

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>Putting that much money into circulation would cause hyperinflation

so dont circulate it.

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