Yes, I’m unapologetically pro-life. … I am fine with a federal law
Ladies and gentlemen, this is your “moderate” Republican candidate.
I mean, that IS moderate for a Republican. The more typical party view is Make America Handmaid’s Tale.
Their point is that that’s only moderate by today’s standards. It wasn’t 20 or 30 years ago. But like they said, “MODERN” republican
It looks like both of the people referred to moderate but as to your point about modern, I wonder if there has been that much of a change in the last 20-30 (or 50 or 100) years as much as perhaps modern technology providing a louder megaphone, and as a result greater “reward” for being more and more–outlandish–to put it politely?
I don’t usually wish for this, but I hope she gets an ectopic pregnancy and is forced to carry to term
Realistically she’d just fly herself to NY
I don’t wish that pain and suffering on anyone. Ever her terrible ass.
That said, she’s 100% the type of person that would get the medical care, and never mention it on the trail, and continue to try and win over the nuts who want a ban.
She already lies to her base in order to get votes.
Stockholm Syndrome is the only explanation for women continuing to support Republicans
There were anti suffrage women’s groups.
There were pro-Nazi Jewish people in Germany until they came for them too.
There’s always some people within a population who just choose to side with power, even power that loathes them, in hopes they’ll become a favorite pet.
The log cabin Republicans come to mind.
Famously, Mother Jones didn’t believe in women’s suffrage. She believed it was a distraction from class warfare.
I tend to align more with Simone de Beauvoir who saw women as a disadvantaged class as well. I think it’s a helpful lens for how we consider gender dynamics and patriarchal structures.
Um, what about the belief that an unborn fetus has a soul? That’s a belief that tens of millions of American women sincerely hold…
That belief is unsupported by scripture, but even if it was, religious beliefs should not be the basis for federal law.
If you believe an unborn fetus has a soul, don’t have an abortion.
Let me preface this by saying that I am 100% pro-choice, and that I agree with the spirit of your comment, but…
This argument doesn’t work. It’s like saying “if you believe in the value of human life, don’t go on a murder spree.”
These people legitimately believe that aborting a fetus is just as wrong as killing a child/adult, and that it is their moral duty to prevent all types of murder.
They are welcome to hold any religious beliefs they want, but they have no right to force others to adhere to that belief.
Even allowing for the unproven assertion that souls exist, at no point does that soul obligate giving up bodily autonomy.
You can’t use organs from corpses without permission, you can’t force a drunk driver to provide an organ to a kid they ran over, you can’t force a parent to donate an organ to their own child. All of these things would save “souls” but is hardly part of pro-forced birth platforms.
And if fetuses have souls, that would surely make the Christian god the true murderer as 10 to 20% of all pregnancies end in miscarriages, but the Christian god is held to a lower moral standard than human beings by pro-forced birthers. And the governments that reject welfare programs are also held to lower moral standard for some reason, as well.
You don’t need to agree with the women who oppose abortion because they believe a fetus has a soul in order to accept that these women do in fact oppose abortion because they believe a fetus has a soul. I’m not arguing that they’re right but only that they have their reasons, which they aren’t secretive about. People who wonder “how could women vote for Republicans” are ignoring the straightforward explanation that those women readily provide.
It’s stupid and completely unfounded in any medical science regarding when the Fetus is actually a living human being.
Show me a woman who claims she genuinely would see a fetus in a jar and an infant newborn as equally worth saving in a crisis and I will show you a woman who swears she’d have totally been a punk rock abolitionist if she was around in the South in the antebellum years.
Also it literally isn’t sincere belief, the Bible has exactly one thing to say about abortion, and that’s how to perform one via medicine.
God gaveth unto the Jews, the pill.
People like to forget that we live in a country with a huge deeply religious population, and that women are more likely to be anti abortion than men are.
I’m totally okay with those people thinking abortion is wrong and not getting then. I’m not okay with it when those people try to force their ideals on my niece or my sister.
I’d be just as not okay with it if the situation was reversed and we were somehow requiring women to get abortions for whatever reason. Just stay the fuck out of people’s medical decisions.
“Mrs. Haley, have you ever had an abortion? You have a daughter. Has she ever had an abortion?” – The press, if they had any balls.
She would say no regardless of the truth. Asking questions like that without knowing the answer and being able to prove it is basically just tossing a softball.
A little bit of investigative reporting can work to find out if it is a lie. Getting her on record is step one. They won’t even go to step one.
Asking her is fine, leave all politicians kids out of the spotlight (unless they are campaigning).
Sorry, that was thrown out the window when Rush Limbaugh went after Chelsea Clinton. And it really went out the window when the entire Republican media sphere went after Sasha and Malia Obama.
And it was wrong then and remains wrong now. Kids can’t help who their parents are, leave them out of it.
The sociopaths were rude so I get to act like a sociopath argument really doesn’t sit well
“I am going to step on this rake again and again, harder and harder, until the rake no longer slaps me in the face when I step on it.”
If she weren’t a degenerate buffoon, she wouldn’t be campaigning as a Republican.
Anyone who still identifies themselves with the ® in this day and age can be written off as an idiot and bigot…
You ever get the feeling that certain people are anti-abortion simply because they want neglected, sad children to grow up and become ignorant, angry adults that will vote to give sociopaths, narcissists and psychopath power?
The Dominionists say yes…
The anti-abortion sentiment is very tightly bound up in the white nationalist / supremacist narrative. A lot of the same folks who say they want to ban women from having abortions are the same ones who endorse sterilizations, harden their hearts toward public healthcare for minorities, and scream all the live-long-day about Anchor Babies.
The theory of the anti-abortion activist is always that the wrong fetuses are getting terminated. This ties back to old blood libels against Jews, Satanic Panics, and other conspiracy theories that orbit the “Great Replacement” Theory of lower-than-average white replacement level procreation.
And in the last decade, as domestic maternity rates have fallen and hysteria around Arabs, Latinos, Africans, and the Dreaded China Menace has peaked, we’re seen a lot more Scientific Racism that gears itself around the need for a revitalization of the White Race as a prelude to some kind of future apocalyptic global struggle for power.
*anti-abortion
But also those same people would like orphans to be raised by private Christian organizations (and limit adoption to Christian nuclear families), so I would say they would also like those children to be raised Christian to reinforce their religious theocracy
Also, desperate, neglected, unwanted children have less of a chance of going to college and pursuing “better” career opportunities later in life. Theres just too much stress associated with the simple act of living. They’ll always have to rely on the state for assistance, which means they’ll always be driven to work the jobs no one wants for a pittance, just to be able to survive.
Make no mistake, the anti abortion politicians aren’t doing this out of any “respect for life” or whatever, they just want to keep the working class populated, so they can keep making money off the backs of an uneducated, exploited population.
