124 points

Pfft. One

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68 points

“This reply was sent during work hours.”

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4 points

Hehe

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18 points

I barely spend a workweek doing a day’s worth of work, let alone 4.

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8 points

Right?! Those are some rookie numbers

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1 point

“Those are rookie numbers! You gotta pump these numbers up!”

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118 points

Maybe at a cushy white collar office job. I work at a hospital. There is no down time when you are on the clock, that’s true for nurses, doctors, housekeeping, pharmacy, lab, food service - I’d imagine the same is also true for all sort of service industry workers, and also factory workers, farmers, construction, and so so many others. Let’s stop pretending that everyone just sits in front of a computer all day.

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66 points
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Whats sad is that most of those jobs are just insanely and intentionally understaffed (and underpaid), which is precisely why they’re so demanding.

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26 points

It’s almost like we should have started investing in better education and replacing manually repetitive tasks with automation.

Machines should have been a relief from the hardship of life, not a mean to gain more profit for a few individuals.

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50 points

Those are the first jobs we need to change into 4 hours for 3 days shifts or something. It’s dangerous for everyone to work without sufficient recovery

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10 points

Exactly. I definitely would not want a nurse or a doctor to operate on me when there on the last stretches of a 12 hour shift, running on 5 hours of sleep. The only question I ask any doctor, nurse or dentist before they start any procedure on me is “how many hours of sleep did you get last night”… Anything less than 6-7 hours puts me in more risk than I’d accept!

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8 points

Even truck drivers etc. have mandatory work:rest-ratios. It should be a norm

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39 points

It’s criminal how you are all treated because of purposeful under-staffing. Everyone needs downtime. The human mind does not go full throttle for 8-12 hours straight, and I’m well aware you often have longer shifts than that in a hospital! If medical staff had some downtime during their shifts, patient outcomes would improve, and not just by a little bit.

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1 point

We need to mandate a certain level of staffing so this shit stops.

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21 points

I just posted the same thing. I used to be a bartender/ server and work in retail. You DON’T rest. Not on your own schedule at least

My work is hybrid these days and I have tasks to complete instead of just drink from the firehose of task garbage being thrown my way. I can control the ebb and flow of my workday and slack or be a champion as needed.

Oh, I work 4 9 hour day weeks too. My quality of life is better in every way and i STILL dick around certain days. You probably make a lot more than I do but it’s not worth it to get home and have zero bandwidth

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18 points

It would be better if you were 4 days instead of 5. You’d have better productivity and recovery.

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13 points

I’m a doctor and intentionally set my own hours to four day work weeks whenever I can, because I run my own practice and can do that. Let’s not pretend it’s a badge of honour to grind ourselves into a twitching mess.

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10 points

To be fair, for those jobs the 5 day workweek, as it is known traditionally, has never been true. They were always either doing starnge shifts like 24 hours twice then 2 free days, repeat or working way more than 5 days a week, based on demand (which of course has been increasing since businesses hire less and less for some fuckin reason).

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10 points

This is exactly my problem as well… We wanted to try a 4 day work week at my factory but they said no because we need to ship things 5 days a week… Except for the fact that we almost never ship more than 1 or 2 things in any given day and they are rarely things that need to go asap… One day wouldn’t kill them but they’re stuck in the past.

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7 points

I assure you that “sitting in front of a computer” is less ideal than you seem to think it is

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3 points

Well, it’s kinda depressing when you conclude no particular task for a day, yet still feel boiled due to tired eyes, headache etc.

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7 points

You’re a human being, not a human doing. You need and deserve downtime. You are not a machine. You must find a way. If there’s a will, there’s a way.

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2 points

I work five days in a warehouse. If I go more than five minutes without scanning a box then it alerts the manager and they’ll come down and see what’s occurring.

So yeah. I feel like this stat is more for office sorts who (and I may be wrong here) spend a lot of time on Reddit and Facebook during the work day.

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-9 points

Obviously white collar workers need help.

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20 points

Can’t we agree that everyone’s job is difficult in one way or another instead of making it a dick-measuring contest?

Everyone deserves a job that doesn’t make them want to die as well as to make enough money to live off.

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70 points

I feel like this is something that everyone already knew but we had to do a study to prove it

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53 points

People have known it since at least 1999 when Office Space was released. If you’re not slacking off at work, especially if you’re salaried, you’re being exploited even more than usual.

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3 points

What would you say… you do here?

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52 points

How is this a surprise? The detachment people have from the reality “on the ground” is infuriating. Try working a job you hate for shit pay for 71% of your entire fucking week and then just bounce into a weekend (assuming you even get two days off in a row) with all the energy to “do stuff”.

ffs. Assholes.

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6 points

I’ve put my foot down on Tuesday/Wednesday as my weekend. the past year I’d be lucky to get 2 in a row.

This gives me a functional 4 day week but if I get rostered on Sunday I’m perfectly happy with that kind of money.

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2 points

I’m glad for you!! That’s great. I’m fortunate as well. I work 4 days (10 hours) so I typically have three days off and my boss usually gives me at least two in a row.

Even with that, I still often burn one day off just recovering. This oligarchy late stage capitalism is bullshit.

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46 points

That’s besides the point. You have to be there so you don’t have enough time to achieve your hopes & dreams, ensuring you don’t build up any wealth, let alone generational wealth, and therefore can never challenge their dominance & authority.

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14 points

It’s highly unlikely that any of my dreams would make me wealthy, because they all involve having fun, improving myself, and/or making the world a better place. I think most other people are the same way.

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11 points

I agree, this is more than whether we work more or less efficiently with 4 or 5 days in the office. The ruling class wants us in our white cages (office walls) for as long as possible so, as you said, they can ensure we can’t work on other stuff that truly satisfies us and gives us a chance of generating actual wealth rather than depending on whatever measly income they want us to live paycheck to paycheck on…

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9 points

I’m pretty convinced these days that generational wealth as a goal leads to exactly this problem. Not that I disagree that we could be using that time in more fulfilling ways, but generational wealth as a construct probably inherently means significant inequality, unless it’s some utopian wealth where it’s equally shared.

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4 points

Indeed. The solution for the problems caused by nobility isn’t to make more nobles, even if that noble is oneself.

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2 points

There needs to be a cap of some kind. I don’t want my kids to end up like Musk where they’re fucking idiots with millions.

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  • All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
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