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How we got here is really easy, we’ve arrived at the ground state of First Past The Post voting. Once you have two extremists facing off against each other it takes a massive effort to get a non-extremist into office as you can just cruise into an easy victory by running your own extremist against your opponents extremist. Each side effectively has a lock on their own party and it comes down to which extremist will be slightly less off-putting to the independents. In this case the extremist on one side has aspirations to be a dictator, while the other side is so utterly bland he makes milk look spicy. If Biden was any less progressive he’d literally be a Republican.

That’s basically what Biden is banking on, that he’s so utterly boring and milquetoast that more independents will vote for him over the wannabe dictator of Trump while still getting enough Democrats to hold their nose and vote for him just to deny Trump the win.

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Give me milquetoast extremism or give me death!

I don’t really understand your charge against Biden. Skimming headlines from afar it seemed like he was supposedly the most progressive president in a very long time. Where do you think one should read up on his record in office if we want to judge his presidency?

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Biden has largely just maintained the status quo. He hasn’t done anything to meaningfully progress anything. None of the problems facing the US or the world have been even remotely addressed by him. The best that could be said is he hasn’t made most things any worse, although he’s really giving it the college try with his support for Israel recently. The only reason Biden looks remotely progressive is because he undid all the stuff Trump fucked up. Just because the previous guy was running backwards doesn’t mean you get credit for returning to where you started when you’ve done fuck all since then.

As for where to find his accomplishments, I’ve got no idea as he has very few worth mentioning. He’s managed to keep the economy going so there’s that I guess, and he supported Ukraine, but really that should be considered the bare minimum. Domestically he’s doing nothing of particular note.

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Climate change is by far the most serious problem facing the US and the IRA is a genuinely substantial step towards addressing that.

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That’s an interesting perspective, thanks for sharing.

Just because the previous guy was running backwards doesn’t mean you get credit for returning to where you started when you’ve done fuck all since then.

I disagree with this point enthusiastically. If he steered the boat ten miles up river, that’s still a major achievement, especially if the previous captain had just drifted from bank to bank while he was actively putting holes in the hull. We don’t know how Biden would have sailed if he’d taken charge where the previous guy did, maybe he’d have stayed in one place, gone down stream, or maybe he’d taken another ten miles the right way, we’ll never know.

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You’re kind of contradicting yourself. On one hand you are saying two extremists then later about that Biden is right centre.

I agree with the later part. At this moment we have one extremist and one right center guy. The reason Biden is running is to be still appealing to Republicans and independents to dissuade them from voting for trump.

Though, so much effort was put by media to make him look like he is Karl Marx reincarnated.

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Biden is extremist by the standards of progressives in that he’s basically not progressive. He’s not a moderate Democrat, he’s far right of the DNC, which puts him ever so slightly to the left of the GOP. The only viable candidate for the DNC given FPTP was either going to be far right or far left, and with the push by their core to make sure Bernie was out of the running far right it was.

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Biden is not far right of the DNC, that’s an asinine claim. If anything he’s towards the left of the DNC. The DNC is just right-center as a whole. (There are obvious exceptions in true progressives that are under the Dem banner because of fptp, but there are like 10 of them or something).

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Biden is not closer to the GOP than the DNC. Either you are idolizing the GOP in thinking Biden could represent their platform, or you misunderstand that the DNC is not so far left from Bidens platform. Bernie is literally a different party but ran on the democratic platform for the elections, but the DNC itself identifies with Biden and Clinton politics.

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It is a little bit of a contradiction and I had a hard time following the logic. But your post made me think of something else. If you have one extremist candidate by definition you have two, because from the perspective of the followers of the atypical extremist candidate (a trump like figure) status quo will be an extreme for them

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Extremism needs to be judged by the standards of that party in this context. An extreme Democrat is either a radical socialist like Bernie Sanders, or utterly non-progressive like Biden. Likewise extremist for the GOP would be a fascist like Trump, or someone so far left as to almost qualify as a progressive.

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People want Trump for the same reason they hate Biden.

They are simply unwilling to admit what their candidate has done since Biden took office.

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The thing is, though, I think most (or at least enough) voters actually do want this. Trump is clearly the preferred Republican candidate and that’s been obvious for some time. On the Democrats side, Biden is the lead candidate and likewise, it has been obvious that he was likely to be it for months. Ergo, it’s a Biden-Trump rematch.

Obviously nobody is happy about this, but it’s hardly surprising.

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The system is set up deliberately to prevent doing what the voters want.

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And this isn’t some conspiracy theory. Read the Federalist Papers and you’ll find they didn’t want an unruly mob making decisions. Hence why senators were picked by states originally, and why there’s an electoral college instead of popular vote for president.

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Best system of government a bunch of wealthy slavers could ask for

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And it’s high time all this was fixed. Just because some dudes 250 years ago thought a system of government was good, doesn’t mean it’s still adequate today.

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Short answer: no proportional representation. Long answer: lack of proportional representation. If you are going to have voting, at least let people vote for the candidate they want rather than the least worst option.

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At the very minimum ranked ballots.

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