184 points

“Wow, so Bill Clinton AND Trump get locked up? What’s the downside?”

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One of Trump’s defense arguments for presidential immunity for any action was that if presidents didn’t have it, Bush could be prosecuted for misleading Congress about WMDs, and Obama could be prosecuted for drone strikes against civilians.

Yes please.

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68 points

You mean we should’ve given Nixon his well deserved punishment for treason, instead of a pardon? And we might have set an example to others, and be on a very different timeline? Fuuuuuuu

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10 points

I want this so bad

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4 points

One of the biggest improvements of Lemmy over reddit is that people here are willing to take an objective look at Obama instead of falling for his charisma and defending him to the death like MAGAs

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When did Obama order drone strikes against civilians?

Or is this just more hyperbole over civilian casualties occurring during military operations? Part of ongoing the effort to “both sides” the genocide Hamas committed, maybe?

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/daniel-hale-drones-leaked-documents-b1891826.html

“With drone warfare, sometimes nine out of 10 people killed are innocent,” Hale said on Tuesday. “You have to kill part of your conscience to do your job.”

“I am here because I stole something that was never mine to take — precious human life,” Hale said. “I couldn’t keep living in a world in which people pretend that things weren’t happening that were. Please, your honour, forgive me for taking papers instead of human lives.”

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Obama killed US citizens overseas by drone strike, with no trial. These were murders by the state, if you believe in due process.

https://www.amnestyusa.org/updates/is-it-legal-for-the-u-s-to-kill-a-16-year-old-u-s-citizen-with-a-drone/

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4 points

lol

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Imagine being this retarded

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so, what happens… if I mash that thing multiple times?

also, is it pressure sensitive? if I mash it harder… ?

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7 points

Can I stick a robot to spam it 24/7/365/9999?

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…. Let’s add maintenance windows to, you know, make sure it stays working. First sunday every month?

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Pressing it starts an investigation. We don’t know what happens when it’s released.

I would expect mashing it would have one of two outcomes. Either you have a bunch of very short lived investigations, or you have so many active investigations that they start tripping over each other like lemmings in a ditch.

The right solution is to place a heavy weight on it one time, and then protect it to prevent the weight from being moved.

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The right solution is to place a heavy weight on it one time, and then protect it to prevent the weight from being moved.

Iza button. no need for weight. Get some light weigh, UV cured epoxy resin.

in any case if that’s all that happens, I think we need some expanded functionality. Maybe some electrodes… ?

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It only starts the investigation.

But you can restart it whenever some rich slob tries to block it.

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1 point

Boring.

Guess I need to build my own button.

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14 points

I like the joke that puts them in hell where Trump is forever giving Clinton a blowjob. This way we can know they are both miserable forever.

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-6 points

Clinton said this (12-14 years old when she died) mummy was attractive, so clearly his standards are pretty low.

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10 points

Trump said he would fuck his daughter if they weren’t related, so there’s that.

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126 points

Make federal investigation in to any potential wrongdoing a retirement for holding any rejected federal office. Staff an entire branch of the government who’s only job it is to investigate elected officials.

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41 points

The FBI used to hold sting operations for corrupt elected officials. They had to stop because they found like 70% of them to be corrupt.

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13 points

If they kept at it, would the number not go down?

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29 points

No, the number of very rich and/or very clumsy FBI directors would go up.

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4 points

ABSCAM. Interesting read.

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36 points

i assume… “requirement” and “elected” instead of “retirement” and “rejected”?

Probably prudent, but then how do we select this branch of government and protect it from becoming corrupt?

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10 points

B-b-but…

B-b-but…

B-b-but… then how would you politicize that!?

Unfortunately some people aren’t merely dumb, they are outright evil:-(.

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9 points

“requirement”, right? Unless you mean they should be forced to retire if they are investigated.

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7 points

Staff an entire branch of the government who’s only job it is to investigate elected officials.

Yeah, and we could call it the Congress or something!

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111 points

This exact conversation happened to me IRL once - and it was about a decade ago. The shock expression of the woman who realized I wasn’t gong to protect Bill -hell anyone on my side- match my shocked expression a second later when I realized she was trying to set up a M.A.D. scenario about child sex traffickers. These people are gross.

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70 points

Yep.

They can’t fathom that democrats arent as corrupt and vile as they are.

Thats why they project so much.

They are convinced they are doing X, so Democrats must be doing X too.

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BUT also, Hunter Biden gets prosecuted for any crime he’s committed

push push push push

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That’s the thing about MAGAts. They assume that because they will circle the wagons and defend to their last breath everyone who bends the knee to Orange Man, or of course him himself, that Democrats must obviously be seething at the idea that anyone even tangentially connected to Biden face a day in court.

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I like asking them why they aren’t defending Hunter Biden against that gun charge what with blah blah government overreach blah blah second amendment rights…

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Bill already has done irreparable damage to american democracy. Why would anyone but an establishment dem come to his defense?

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That’s cute how you equate clinton and trump.

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Bro, where in the actual fuck are you getting that from?

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9 points

Weid they would think Twitter is the only place where that happens. Happens pretty much everywhere.

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Dem voters would likely sell out all buf a few of the ones they really really like. Bernie or Newsom I guess but I don’t live in their states.

Here people “like” Fetterman and recently that has even struggled. People do not give a fuck about Josh Shapiro

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85 points

“sell out” is a weird way to talk about having principles

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We/They are fickle. Look at how they feel about their candidates. Look at the options they overwhelmingly vote for.

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37 points

Criminals must face charges on both sides, Trump or Clinton or Newsom I don’t give a fuck.

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17 points

Fetterman’s population started to fall off pretty quickly when he started backing Israel’s genocide out of nowhere. I dunno whether he was hiding his power level on that nonsense up to this point, or if it’s literal brain damage, but it’s no good.

Of course, the broader issue is that Republicans are motivated by culture war nonsense, fear and disgust, and many know they’re engaging in dishonest team sports, so they assume the Dems are too.

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Not everyone thinks popularity is the only consideration on issues, you know?

Ever consider the possibility that Fetterman’s stance on Israel is actually based on facts? Is it possible you may only be looking at what’s popular (as determined by social media algorithms) while Fetterman is considering things you’re not? Is it possible for the popular opinion to be wrong?

Is it possible that Fetterman, who you think is right on all the other issues, may also be right about Israel even while the popular opinion is wrong?

I’ll wait for you to consult with the social media algorithms to determine what the most popular responses to these questions are.

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10 points

Imagine supporting terrible people just because they have ® next to their name.

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