I did a search from shitjustworks for “reddit die” and did not find https://lemmy.world/c/watchredditdie so I made https://sh.itjust.works/c/watchredditdie (unnecessarily). This should really not happen. When someone makes a community there should be a “ping” sent out to notify all other federated instances.

And from what I know, if I post to !sh.itjust.works/c/watchredditdie only users on sh.itjust.works will see the posts until other people from other instances randomly come across it somehow and subscribe? This really needs to be improved.

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Why is it that an instance decides for me which instances I can see? Why is it that mods are deciding for me which comments are censored?

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Because you’re too lazy to make your own instance.

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Speak for yourself.

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Fuck are you talking about? You’re on Lemmy.world, crying about Lemmy.world instance mods.

You can hop to another instance whenever you want. Lemm.ee has a very neutral defederation policy, if that’s you’re concern move there. If you want total control over federation, spin up your own instance

Otherwise stop whining

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Instances are the ones hosting the data on their servers + things not having mods can devolve very quickly with things like the nazi bar problem or the scam links that have been getting posted and removed in some communities. This is a different thing than whats in the post though, the post is talking about all communities needing to be fetched manually the first time theyre viewed

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Ok, so why can’t I just host the data on my own device and subscribe/unsubscribe from mods’ actions?

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You can, it’s called hosting your own instance. It’s literally one of the points of the Fediverse (i.e. ‘Fuck you I don’t like how you’re running things, I’ll go make my own with blackjack and hookers’). If an instance admin does things you don’t like, you get to leave, go to a new instance, and follow the same communities you did before via that one instead.

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Host your own instance and that would be the case

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If instances don’t want to federate with some or all other instances, that is their choice, and that’s on purpose. Some just want to have smaller communities, stronger moderation, and sometimes be entirely private.

If you’re looking for instances that federate with most, you should choose yours accordingly. And I think you won’t have an issue with that, because most popular instances chose to go this route.

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This is not about federation between instances. It’s about how community discovery within federated instances works. Currently it’s definitely sub-par.

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There is a design conflict between on the one hand having the capability to locate and reach all instances of a thing, and on the other hand having those things be freely available to people.

This is, incidentally, why pro-2A people are so opposed to the idea of a gun registry.

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I’m not understanding what the conflict is between being able to locate a thing and that thing being available for use.

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I didn’t say able to locate I said there being a list. But in that case being able to locate is a better term. And I didn’t say available I said freely available, which is an important distinction.

If a thing’s existence always includes a route to finding it, that constrains its existence. Barriers in adding to the list, or in whatever finding mechanism you use, become barriers to the creation of an instance of that thing.

That’s one problem. There are others too, but if we can’t agree on this one then we’ve no hope of discussing the others.

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I didn’t say able to locate I said there being a list.

Are you confusing comments?

I see this in the referred comment:

having the capability to locate

While the word “list” does not appear.

But mostly I think we should try to read the message, not focus on single words.

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The number of subscribers being completely different depending on which instance you search from is really weird/bad too IMO.

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that was fixed, I think in v0.19.0, but your instance hasn’t updated yet

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This is fixed in version 0.19.3, hopefully your instance will update soon

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3 points

Subscriber numbers will be federated? That’s awesome!

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Yes, it’s been the case for a while ha ha

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This. I want to be able to see every community of every instance i‘m federated with with post and sub count. Thats a laughable amount of data. This would boost subscriptions by insane amounts.

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