A man in the US state of New Mexico has pleaded guilty to helping a defeated Republican candidate carry out drive-by shootings at the home of Democrats.

The defendant, Demetrio Trujillo, says the candidate, Solomon Peña, hired him after failing to win a seat in the state legislature in November 2022.

Over the following weeks, the residences of several Democratic officials were attacked in Albuquerque.

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This stuff should ring alarm bells for anyone who studied history, because these are 1920s/1930s Germany-style micro movements.

Naziism didn’t start with the Final Solution. It didn’t start with work camps. It didn’t even start with the beer Hall putsch. It started with things like this.

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45 points

For sure. But what do we do?

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In Germany, they can ban extremist parties as a result of historic events. That’s what under consideration with the AfD. The US could persue the same route, although it is probably harder in a two-party system.

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Especially since we’d effectively have to ban Republicans which would seem to be going a fascist route. As ironic as that is…

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I don’t really see how that could work on its own. So the party is banned, so what? All the deplorables are still around and now they’ve got one more grievance to get riled up about. By fracturing the party you nullify their political power and that’s obviously a good thing, but it might increase the likelihood they resort to terrorism. The only solution I can see working is fixing our education system, but that doesn’t help in the short term.

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That would be massively illegal under US law, specifically the first amendment.

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14 points

Overall I’m not sure. But it sure would be nice if news channels were required to tell the truth or be held accountable if creating and spreading lies which indoctrinate people into actions like this.

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We all should collectively boycott what passes for “news” these days. It is all terrible. Although it has always had inflection points where the rich barons try to control the tone of the public through their media empires, so not sure if we can ever fully quell the corruption that seems to eventually bleed back into journalism periodically.

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14 points

Start punching Nazis at any opportunity, when you see someone punching a Nazi, look the other way.

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I’ve never seen a Nazi in person (and been aware of their fascism). In seriousness have you? What happened when you punched them?

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They go around in groups though. The only time they actually admit to be Nazis is when they’ve got their friends around them and they’re waving flags.

It’s like this in every country. They hold demonstrations and then 10 times the number of counter protesters turn up. I’ll get worried when the number of counter protesters goes down but I’ve not yet seen that.

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Seriously. When they show up in khakis and black masks, make them fear for their safety.

I abhor violence, but it’s going to take violence to prevent huge systemic violence down the road. If these fucks come to real power, I know I’ll be on one of the lists.

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They’re gonna hate me for this one but arm yourself and train. Lets take a hypothetical to the endgame, lets say there are nazi style brownshirts roaming the streets in 10 years time, do you think it would be better to be unarmed with strong gun control, or like me do you think at least half of the roughly 400 million guns that already are here would end up in the brownshirts hands anyway?

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You have the correct approach, and it is the moral duty of sites such as this one to stop fucking banning people for saying it.

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Did you figure out any solutions while in the delta quadrant?

But seriously. A very good question. Last time, the fascist uprise that was also starting in the US (yes, it was becoming very popular here in the 1930s) leading up to WWII was quelled after Pearl Harbor and we joined the war.

I don’t really want to have to have a world war again to stop fascism. Why can’t we fucking learn from history?

Although, as you know, after WWIII, we did then get warp drive. So…

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There is a good book on modern fascism Fascism Today: What It Is and How to End It (excepts)

There is liberal anti fascist action (e.g. suing them, petitions, boycotts) and autonomous anti fascist action (less polite). The latter isn’t about violence, but to disrupt fascist events. The strategy is to prevent them from recruiting - prevent them from speaking because we know that clever fascist speech and their lies can lead to recruitment.

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Be prepared to kill Nazis if it comes down to it. But try every possible democratic solution prior to it.

The biggest part is simply voting and talking to people who will listen to you to vote.

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1 point

Acknowledge and learn. Vote with conscience and pragmatism.

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Voting is the minimum effort. We are going to need a lot more than that to stop the republican party.

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Put “republican” hired to shoot “Democrat” in the headline

By deliberately de-emphasizing the crimes of republicans they are thereby absolved and emboldened.

BBC knows better but doesn’t do the right thing. Why? Why indeed.

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Odd that just doing that is great, but notice that this is the BBC not an american source. Its almost like if you want the best news about your country and its real issues and good things its best to never look in the sources from that country.

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76 points

The Republican party has evolved from organized crime to domestic terrorists.

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You’re not saying anything about Republicans that they aren’t bragging about. Don’t forget that this was the actual CPAC 2022 motto:

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Fact check, just because I had never seen this and it’s bananas… The image is real, but it was the title of talk or some nonsense. They’re being “tongue in cheek” but also are they?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/

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In fairness they didn’t view it as open admittance; rather they thought the idea was so absurd and ridiculous that they’re mocking the very notion.

Unfortunately for us all though, it’s simply the truth.

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5 points

The party thats swatting its own party or sending mass death threats to people they don’t agree with? Not sure where that idea comes from

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68 points

No surprise that he’s a Trump supporter who, after losing an election by 50%, said it was ‘rigged’ and he didn’t accept the results and wouldn’t concede.

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Unlike Trump, he’s not rich and famous enough to get away with murder.

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They only have the shooter now. We’ll see if the pos Republican that hired him gets a slap on the wrist or jail. Hell, in AZ they might not even ban him from politics.

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They have Pena. The shooter was driving his car when he was arrested with a gun matching the shells at the scene. Or something along those lines. Or a has been in jail for over a year and will remain there pending trial.

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21 points

I see the party of law and order is lawing and ordering again.

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Well if they execute anyone for any crime this should be one crime worthy of it

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