My parents: “Adoption is amoral. Those children come from godless families.”
My sister can’t have kids, adopts two.
My parents: “Adoption is God’s way of making sure every child can grow up in a loving home.”
🤢 As someone who just went through a very lengthy adoption process to rescue my niece and nephew from the system, that first line makes me feel extra sick. How the fuck can you be so full of nastiness towards parentless children who got into the system through life circumstances they couldn’t possibly help.
Well it probably happened to you because you are a sinner or smth. That is how they think.
Religion is a cancer on society. All religion. You cannot changemty mind.
My only real argument against it is that religion often isn’t the reason for the views; It’s simply the cudgel being used to attack the “others”. People who aren’t already predisposed to racism, sexism, classism, etc likely won’t embrace those parts of religion. If they do end up being religious, they’ll land in the more liberal sects, like Unitarians/universalists…
But if someone is already predisposed to that bigoted mindset, religion will absolutely be used to justify it. Because the views of some 3000 year old goat herders is apparently meant to apply to modern society.
It’s a sort of chicken and egg situation, where it’s hard to say whether or not religion is causing the fucked up worldviews, or if it’s simply a phenomenon of people seeking out a religion that confirms their own worldviews.
Religion blind hatred for anyone not in your spiritual fraternity and hypocritical self interest is a cancer on society.
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People are afraid of dying and what may or may not come after, so we make up comforting narratives to ease the existential dread. And those narratives double as a cultural identity marker to make people feel special and in a community. I would be okay if it just stopped there. Where most religions here in the west go wrong for me is the constant threats of eternal damnation if you aren’t part of the club, like the concept of hell and eternal punishment for finite usually-not-that-bad crime is just so awful on a practical and philosophical level it must have originated from the human mind and our deep seeded desire for the ultimate form of vengeance. Imagining the people who wronged you burning in hell forever really does bring some people a fucked up sense of comfort I guess. That and most versions of God being kind of a overly controlling petty dick who despite being benevolent and all loving will absolutely torch your ass for all eternity if you don’t constantly ask for forgiveness over every little thing. Like im pretty sure an all powerful benevolent god that truly loves every being in existence wouldn’t have such a fragile and temperamental ego, nor would they expect constant groveling every time you bust a nut.
I used to be a hardcore athiest since I disliked those aspects of my countries popular religions so much. Taking heroic doses of mushrooms and learning eastern ideas of religion like daoism and the idea of the godhead through Alan Watts helped me tremendously with coming around to the spiritual nature of realty. Im much happier with actually being able to experience subjective experiences my edgelord athiest past self never would have imagined while feeling relatively comfortable with the concept of my own mortality.
Not sure what point I was trying to make. sorry for the ramble.
Hey, swap out adoption with aborting unwanted pregnancies and you have the same R meme.
She, like most republicans, was an absolute fucking cunt and nobody of worth mourned her death.
My dad:
“Student loans shouldn’t be forgiven, they should be paid back! Oh, you still owe $10k in student loans? Well I hope yours is forgiven”
America really needs a better schooling system… Here in Switzerland the ETH, (which is rated 10th place of the best schools in the world I think) is only 800.- (about 1-2 week’s worth of salary) per semester, which is nothing compared to what private schools in the US demand, whilst still having quality education. So I believe the biggest issue is the quality difference between state-owned schools and private schools, as private school should be allowed to charge whatever they want, but the state has the responsability to provide quality education to everyone for a decent price.
Student loans should be payed back. Hate to say it but yeah you signed on the dotted line and took the banks money knowing full well you would have to pay it back plus interest down the line. Thats just how signing a contract with the bank and taking their money to get what you want now but cant afford, works
Instead, student loans and hell even credit cards, should be illegal to give to anyone below 21. It should be illegal to even put a 17-18 year old in the position of pressuring them into taking tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt right out of high school, when their brains aren’t even fully developed, and for what is most likely a useless degree they will never apply in the real world. We can’t expect kids to not be dumbasses that make poor financial decisions, so we should hold off those decisions until they can think their options through. Im willing to bet theres a lot of college graduates working minimum wage jobs paying off huge debts right now who wish they could have invested the money better, and probably would have if they weren’t pressured into college as a fucking idiot teenager.
probably would have if they weren’t pressured into college as a fucking idiot teenager.
I think this is the key problem here. True, you should honor contracts, and there are many other systemic issues around the costs of higher education, but the way student loans work are really messed up and a lot of adults don’t understand what’s in those agreements, much less some “fucking idiot teenager.” But the pressure has been so high for the past several decades about college degrees being necessary, people just think to get the degree first and figure things out later. Heck, I remember sitting through a presentation as a teenager about how going into debt for university is normal.
The student loan system (and higher education in general) needs to be fixed, but while people try to fix the broken system, why not try to make right the people who were hurt by that system?
You made excellent points and after thinking on it again it does make sense. Under my own logic it wouldn’t really be fair to hold kids who don’t know better to a contract they didn’t really understand while pressured through a predatory system and probably should have had legal representation like an attorney present with them before signing.
Thank you for helping me re-evaluate my ideas on the issue.
I’m fhr getting rid of the loan bankruptcy protection.
A friend worked every day for over a year to put his kids through uni. I guess he should’ve just bought a sports car? Homie gave up his mid life crisis years for his girls. A system that punishes people for making the right choice seems fucky.
As a American who was forced into choosing between military and college at 18 and wasn’t ready for either, I’m inclined to agree -except college should be free and we should tax the rich to pay for that & more. Those who are poor shouldn’t be burdened for trying to change that.
TBF they still don’t give a shit about you, they’re just fixing things for themselves and the collateral damage is that it helps others in similar situations.
“The sister of a Dutch bishop in Limburg once visited the abortion clinic in Beek where I used to work in the seventies. After entering the full waiting room she said to me, ‘My dear Lord, what are all those young girls doing here?’ ‘Same as you’, I replied. ‘Dirty little dames,’ she said.” (Physician, The Netherlands).
This story is my favorite of the ones in there. Very much a “morals for thee, not for me” worldview.
