"Well, if I were him I’d want to debate me too. He’s got nothing else to do.”

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There is no upside to Biden debating him. Trump will just spout nonsense to get sound bites

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Biden is like Trump’s kryptonite. Trump always tries to get in the other guys head.

Can’t get in Biden’s head…Bidens not in there, good luck dude

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Lmfao

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That guy has the BEST impersonation I’ve ever seen, it’s repulsive! Not just the voice, but the hands, the sucking air through the teeth, the head tilts and mouth movements, all spot-on. You know how you have to wonder about the mental state of horror game/movie artists looking at reference material all day? Same feeling about Shane Gillis.

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Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Mark Twain

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The idiot will have more experience at being an idiot and will throw nonsense and fallacies at you while you try to deflect and defend with logic and reason

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will just spout nonsense

You spelled lies wrong

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There is a distinction between nonsense and lies though, and it’s not intent. Trump nonsense is closer to just insanity and dementia than lies. For telling lies, first you have to make sense.

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Even his lies don’t make sense at this point. They are just incoherent rambling that is indistinguishable from his “normal” incoherent rambling.

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Biden declining is a win for Trumps fans though

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But will that really change anything?

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Not at all, unless Biden specifically says WHY he wont decline.

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He wants to do it to appear as the clear Rep nominee. He doesn’t get to step over Haley if Biden’s not down.

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Im not disagreeing, but trumpers will say Biden is scared and be emboldened.

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Why is Trump so afraid of debating Nikki Haley first?

What a pussy he is.

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Don’t forget. Back in 2016, before the Conventions, Trump challenged Bernie Sanders to a debate. Bernie jumped on the idea, and Trump ran away from his own challenge.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36401179

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He knew Bernie would have DESTROYED him in a debate

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The worst thing for Republican voter turnout is hearing a Bernie Sanders speech. The dude shows up in a coal miner town hall and convinces them all to vote blue.

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It’s a shame it didn’t happen…maybe, just maybe, if Bernie had trounced Trump in a debate, there wouldn’t have been that whole Bernie is unelectable/would lose to Trump idea floating so strongly, and it might’ve given him a better chance in the primary either time.

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It wouldn’t have mattered. The “unelectable” narrative was coming from the DNC leadership. Bernie was polling just fine until everyone started saying he couldn’t win.

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At this point I see debates as pointless.

There may have been a time in this country where candidate A would have this plan for healthcare, candidate B would have that plan for healthcare, candidate A calls for more trade with Europe, candidate B favors trade with Asia etc. and issues are discussed.

These days, there’s one political party and one doomsday cult. I don’t think it’s worth the bandwidth to broadcast.

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I’ll seriously consider debating you once - no, I’m sorry: IF - you win the Republican Primary.

Can you imagine how fucking infuriating that would be to Trump?

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I agree it would completely melt him down

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This is about legitimatizing his run for president. He would never actually show up.

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He should instead offer to debate Haley. That would make Trump explode.

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Oh fuck, please please please let this happen.

“Since you sat out all those Republican debates, we thought you weren’t interested. Sooorry

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That could actually be an interesting debate.

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He shouldn’t agree to debate Trump on the grounds that he’s not qualified to run for president, given that he plotted an insurrection.

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Plotted, and executed. He just didn’t succeed.

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I’m not sure it will ever behoove Biden to take a position on this. Last time he was asked I think he answered that it didn’t matter to him.

If Biden comes out strongly and says he is ineligible, it’s just tempting SCOTUS to disagree, and have all the morons say he is scared of Trump. And obviously he won’t come out and say he is eligible because that would be stupid, counterproductive and wrong.

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It’s not right either. The sitting President shouldn’t use his bully pulpit to put his thumb on the scales of justice.

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I would agree, generally

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Its a simple thing. No sitting president has debated a primary candidate. Its as simple as that. There have been upsets before in the nomination process so you don’t do it. R or D, its a simple strategy that you just don’t do.

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Do we keep forgetting that Biden already beat Trump? The idea that he would want some unknown entity instead of the guy he already beat is just dumb.

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Americans are very fickle.

“We need change.” *Votes for the guy just fucking shit up 4 years prior

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He is so transparently desperate to put Haley in the rear-view mirror.

And he’s already told us what he’s going to do to get out of debating with Biden: He’s going to insist that none of the traditional debates be held and instead they all must be Trump campaign events hosted by his sycophants rather than independently run debates. When he doesn’t get his way he’s going claim Biden didn’t want to debate him.

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He will only debate if Tucker Carlson is the moderator and it’s held in Moscow

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Biden should agree to that, and then when Trump lands in Moscow, Biden’s not there. He just closes the borders and put his shades on from the White House.

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Top notch democracy fan-fiction.

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No, fuck that! I want that asshole in prison on American soil!

Edit: unless the Biden administration freezes all his assets.

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The debates don’t even have to be on his turf, when CNN or whoever moderates it just let’s him say and do whatever

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just let’s him say lie and do whatever

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“It’s great for ratings!”

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And who’s going to swallow that story? The same kind of people who would vote for Trump to begin with.

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