Clean energy could be ‘closer than ever’ after a nuclear fusion machine smashed a record::JET’s final nuclear fusion experiment produced a record-breaking 69 megajoules of heat. Nice.

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Nice

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https://www.newsweek.com/energy-nuclear-fusion-test-jet-world-record-1868146

“By my estimate this is enough energy to make over 600 cups of tea,” professor Stuart Mangles—a physicist from Imperial College London, England—said in a statement.

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The most English measurement.

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The British version of Americans measuring things in football fields

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Wait, how big IS a football field?

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It’s 20.7 Ford F150s long

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About 50 bald eagle wingspans.

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Needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Actually capturing the heat for electricity, and getting more electricity out of it than required to run the reactor itself, remain massive open questions that this generation of research reactors does not even begin to tackle.

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IIRC, this is a big deal because they are achieving more energy out than they put in.

If I’ve been reading these correctly they are achieving it with tiny amounts of fuel and slowly working up as they achieve success. I’m seeing these as proof of concept and fantastic steps in the right direction.

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It doesn’t look like they’re generating electricity with that energy yet, so while you are correct the person you responded to is also correct in that we still need to prove we can harness it efficiently enough.

I think they’ll get there, it just boils down to investment and time.

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In this context, the “energy that they put in” only counts the heating of the plasma. It does not include the energy needed to run the rest of the reactor, like the magnets that trap the plasma. If you count those other energy needs, about an order of magnitude improvement is still required. Possibly more, if we have to extract the energy (an incredibly hard problem that’s barely been scratched so far).

So yeah, it’s nice to see the progress, but the road ahead is still a very long one.

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I feel like the big scary problem is capturing the heat. The proposed method I’ve seen involves a beryllium “blanket” that captures the heat to send it off to a boiler. The problem is beryllium is quite expensive and quite limited in availability. And in fact we may only have enough beryllium (in the world) for a dozen or so reactors. But it’s worse, because these blankets absorb high energy neutrons, and become radioactive over time. And that means two problems, you need to replace the blanket and you need to dispose of radioactive waste.

When you put all that together, I just think “shouldn’t we stick with fission power?”

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Excellent news. Small steps to hopefully thread the needle with. Don’t be discouraging, people, we need success and vigor.

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We need renewables now, not viable fusion two decades from now.

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Why not both? 😅

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Sure, I’m on board with that. But unfortunately all to often hype around fusion is a red herring by the fossil fuel industry :c

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It’s gonna be both. Only a simpleton would be worried others think that way.

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“closer than ever”

We are now closer than ever at anything that hasn’t happened yet and will happen in the future.

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We’re closer than you think.

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Obviously we are, because we do not think much of something which hasn’t already happened.

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Are you guys in a flying circus?

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