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Wait. I thought the black national anthem was that From the Window to the Wall song.

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Till the sweat drop down my balls

(My balls)

Jokes aside they’re referring to the USA National Hymn.

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Premiered in 1900, “Lift Every Voice and Sing” was communally sung within Black American communities, while the NAACP began to promote the hymn as a “Negro national anthem” in 1917

Moron

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Oh well if someone said it over 100 years ago then clearly it’s still exactly as accurate it is today. I mean there’s no way I could sit here and show you multiple proclamations by groups in 1917 that I wouldn’t think hold true today but we could play that game. Surely in 1917 the age of Woodrow Wilson there were no uncomfortable disturbing proclamations made about America.

Also can someone please tell me why the NAACP has the ability to declare a national anthem? I must have missed that in the Constitution.

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Who decides what is the “correct terminology”?

It’s a phrase coined by the NAACP. It’s not “right wing terminology”.

Just put your shovel away.

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Also can someone please tell me why the NAACP has the ability to declare a national anthem? I must have missed that in the Constitution.

Dude, you can hear a song that moves you tomorrow and call it the njm1314 national anthem if you want to. And if enough people like what you have to say about it, they might start calling it that too. I’d hope none of those people think that means you have the ability to “declare a national anthem” because it would be about the stupidest thing to complain about.

I mean there’s no way I could sit here and show you multiple proclamations by groups in 1917 that I wouldn’t think hold true today but we could play that game.

You incorrectly implied the origin of the phrase and were corrected. No one has to call it that. You don’t have to call it that. No one is forcing you to call it that, nor demanding you stand when it is played, nor will be angry if you don’t call it that. Some people, not just maga, still call it that. So you can rage at 100 years of some people voluntarily calling it that, or you can just exercise your freedom to not call it that and move on.

Any chance you are as angry about the maga tantrum as you are about this song?

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Does anybody actually like virtue signalling? I feel like the people who this is supposed to “pander” to are either

  1. dying of cringe
  2. Don’t care
  3. Able to see through it being the scam it is
  4. More worried about more important things, eg, Palestine

And everyone who doesn’t like it just gets mad.

It’s like they’re trying to sow division or something to turn the working class against each other

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It has to start somewhere. Today it’s virtue signaling, tomorrow it’s normal and expected.

Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons can still be a win.

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Explain to them that the American national anthem doesn’t represent black Americans because when that song was written black Americans were not free. The American national anthem was a lie then and is a lie now. Land of the free? Back then we had millions of slaves. And now we have millions of slaves.

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It’s not just that. Look up the subsequent verses of the Star Spangled Banner.

It’s about rounding up “fugitive” runaway slaves. It’s why no one discusses the latter verses.

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It’s not just that. Look up the subsequent verses of the Star Spangled Banner.

It’s about rounding up “fugitive” runaway slaves. It’s why no one discusses the latter verses.

This is factually incorrect. The Star-Spangled Banner is about the War of 1812. The first stanza actually ends on a question, which is answered in the second stanza. I actually really like the first two stanzas together. The poetry in the second is beautiful.

O say can you see, by the dawn’s early light,
What so proudly we hail’d at the twilight’s last gleaming,
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight
O’er the ramparts we watch’d were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket’s red glare, the bomb bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there,
O say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream,
'Tis the star-spangled banner - O long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

The only stanza that mentions slaves is the third. It says:

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
A home and a Country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash’d out their foul footstep’s pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Here the “band who so vauntingly swore” is referring to the British. The “Hireling” refers to Hessian mercenaries hired by the British, and “slave” refers to American slaves who (justifiably) defected to fight for the British, having been offered their freedom in exchange. When the British fled they abandoned those slaves and mercenaries to “the terror of flight and the gloom of the grave.” Problematic certainly, but not about rounding up runaway slaves.

Finally we get the fourth stanza:

O thus be it ever when freemen shall stand
Between their lov’d home and the war’s desolation!
Blest with vict’ry and peace may the heav’n rescued land
Praise the power that hath made and preserv’d us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto - “In God is our trust,”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

The person who wrote the anthem, Francis Scott Key, was indeed a slave owner, but was a complicated individual. He spoke out against slavery, and actually gave free legal representation to some slaves seeking freedom. That said, he also represented some owners of runaway slaves. Like I said, complicated individual (as are many people who live in times with ethics we rightly find abhorrent).

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All people are complicated. The word you’re looking for for Key is “hypocrite”.

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What, to the American slave, is your 4th of July? I answer: a day that reveals to him, more than all other days in the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him, your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty, an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your denunciations of tyrants, brass fronted impudence; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mockery; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade, and solemnity, are, to him, mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy—a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation on the earth guilty of practices, more shocking and bloody, than are the people of these United States, at this very hour.

-Frederick Douglas, 4th of July speech

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What about the blue anthem for smurfs, can’t leave them out

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Okay then, join with me:

Agitatis Ultramarini

Nobilitis Ultramarini

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Yes, Republicans are probably offended by Smurfs, too

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They’re blue; that means they’re Dems and must be smote.

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I’m pretty sure the Smurf anthem is: la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la.

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