This is such a non-thing that it hurts to even consider how stupid it is.
But, let’s consider:
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The Super Bowl is a private corporate event; any song may be performed ceremoniously. That’s protected speech.
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Not standing up for the Black National Anthem is whatever. That’s protected speech.
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The Black National Anthem is a colloquial title and has no legal status. That’s protected speech.
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While there is a statute outlying etiquette for performances of the National Anthem, there are no penalties for not adhering. That’s protected speech.
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“America the Beautiful” was also performed and there’s no legal basis for etiquette or participation. This song also has a long history of being performed alongside the Star-Spangled Banner to the point that it’s sometimes referred to as the National Hymn, even though that is a colloquial and non-legal designation. That’s protected speech.
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This is apparently the fourth year that “Lift Every Voice and Sing” has been performed at the Super Bowl. That’s protected speech.
Oh, who are you kidding? Everyone is against mah freeze peach as long as they get to choose what gets said.
Your statement presupposes that MAGAs are mad because this is somehow illegal. How did you come to such a conclusion?
They didn’t, at least not in what I read.
They’re just outlining how stupid the argument is.
They made 6 statements, each ending with “that’s protected speech”, referred to a “legal basis” and “legal status”, and mentioned that the SuperbOwl was a private event, as if someone was implying otherwise. Not sure how else you interpret that but please share if you have another perspective.
E: LOL you people are literally delusional. Zero objectivity.
The larger context of why anyone is talking about what is sung at the Super Bowl should have been enough of a set up, but apparently not.
This entire stunt is predicated on the right’s frustration that they couldn’t do anything about black athletes and allies being disrespectful during the National Anthem (a legally defined song with etiquette spelled out in the US legal code), which is protected speech.
Now, in my opinion, they have a Super Bowl to posture about eight months before a presidential election. They want sound bites and over-the-top reactions so that they can paint themselves the victims of a hypocritical, leftist, anti-freedom conspiratorial media machine. This part of that “projection” plank in the modern GOP.
My original post was simply outlining that no matter how you slice it, there is nothing to be mad about them “protesting” the Black National Anthem. I added in a rhetorical refrain to drive home the point while beating a dead horse for effect.
I never understand this argument from Americans.
Why can’t people be pissed off with what a private company does? Like if there is a sweet company that makes blueberry flavour and it’s the best. If they stop selling it then I can be pissed. The argument “well it’s a private company it can do what it wants” is in no way related to if I get to be pissed at it.
They have freedom to do as they please, but whining about it does about as much as whining about blueberry flavor.
We aren’t saying you can’t be pissed, we are saying it is completely stupid that you are pissed and there is nothing you can do. There are far more things to be worried about in this country. We are eating ourselves alive, life expectancy is dropping, suicide rate and overdose rate is climbing, our jobs are being given to foreign countries and robots, no one owns anything anymore.
I’m starting to believe people whine about these pointless things in order to avoid confronting the more complicated and deeply rooted issues we have.
Culture and community is absolutely important to a lot of people. In fact it could be very important for happiness.
Maybe people don’t care about monetary things as much as you. Or maybe they care about both. It’s possible to care about everything you said and the superbowl.
Well, you can choose the things you care about. Why waste your energy getting upset about something that has zero negative consequences in your life when you could be doing something productive, <s> like arguing on Lemmy? </s>
Exactly we all wasting our time here.
I have no problem, as a concept, with people complaining about things there care about.
My favorite part was how they kept mentioning the sign language interpreters and then never showing them again. Like, give them a picture-in-picture or something. Otherwise, what’s the point?
And just off camera we have sign interpreters. We wont show them but they are there
I’m old enough to remember when shows used to have ASL interpreters in a little window. All the time. But I haven’t seen it much since the 80s.
I imagine widespread adoption of closed captioning has reduced the need for ASL interpreters on TV.
We switched to closed captions over the course of the 90s. Irl events still use terps but using then on screen is now a specific choice. Usually the only times you’ll see ASL on screen these days is presidential addresses and shows that make a point to cast signers for Deaf characters
I have a question about this, if anybody can help me out. Are Deaf and Hard of Hearing people generally fluent in English (at a similar rate to the general population)? I’ve heard anecdotes about Deaf people who only know ASL, little to no English, but I don’t know how common that actually is. Mainly curious about the US.
I know ofc it’s more complicated than that (ASL isn’t the only sign language used here, and English isn’t the only spoken language, not all Deaf/HH people use sign language, etc.), but I’m just trying to get an idea of the big picture. Like when it comes to TV, are closed captions generally considered ‘accessible’ by the Deaf community?
Apologies if that didn’t make much sense, I had trouble wording it.
Agreed.
For the uninitiated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwSh0dAaqIA
What doesn’t send them into a meltdown? It’s almost like they’re the things that melt easily that they’re so fond of calling everyone else.
Old enough to remember when they went berserk over florescent light bulbs.
Old enough to remember when they lost their minds, because Obama suggested they check their tire pressure.
“I’m STILL not standing for this divisive garbage. One nation. One anthem.”
But kneeling during the national anthem was such utter disrespect that players should be fired?
God. These people are insufferable.
Let’s not forget that Kap got that suggestion from a Soldier. These asshats don’t bother with context or nuance, it’s all just too woke
Bruh I got into such an intense argument with my parents because I defended the BLM protests. They came at me hardcore for “violence” and “destruction of property”. I asked them what the hell protestors were supposed to do to draw attention to their cause, and they told me that they would have respected a “peaceful protest”.
I then pointed out the fact that Colin Kaepernick’s career still hasn’t recovered, and that they themselves haven’t watched an NFL game since then…so no, they wouldn’t. My dad then of course whipped out his favorite “insult”: “Fucking Liberal”, and then proceeded to tell me that I have no respect for the flag.
The inability for them to think critically is absolutely astounding.
Family is the worst when it comes to this stuff. Mine is all military, it is fucking WILD to me to hear all the old grunts who’d kill a commie for being red back when we were in a Cold War…now they’re telling me why this orange guy says the truth. Propaganda is a hell of a drug
They came at me hardcore for “violence” and “destruction of property”.
Same as it ever was.
Nobody question how much of that damage was caused by squad cars plowing through pedestrian traffic and beanbag rounds crashing through store fronts. Nobody ask why there’s a cop’s night stick protruding from your windshield.
Its those damned violent extremist protesters, I tell you.
proceeded to tell me that I have no respect for the flag
Hey, listen. Maybe if the price of toilet paper hadn’t risen so quickly, you’d be right. But I respect the shit out of some cheap disposable material when I’m in a tight spot.
Kapernick’s day has long passed because of this. But I think the base issue was that he wasn’t good enough as a player to get away with it. For example: Mahomes would get a pass.
The NFL is replete with examples of them turning a blind eye to a player’s actions IF they are good enough. See: DUI and domestic abuse cases against players. Like say Deshaun Watson…
Doesn’t take much to rile up the Trumpanzees.
