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I’d go one further. Do longer run remakes for good source material that ended up with a bad movie.

Golden Compass Movie = bad

His Dark Materials limited series = fantastic

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Yeah, there are so many movies based on media with a deeper and richer source material than can be presented well in a 2-hour movie format. For example, the Ender’s Game novel spent a significant amount of time on the progression of Ender’s career at the Battle School and the movie only spent as much time as was necessary to show that he was good. A TV series could tell the parallel story of Ender’s Shadow as well in the same season.

A counterexample is that sometimes the TV series may over milk the source material and drag out which should be a shorter story. The first season of American Gods was awesome, but they kept dragging out the series way too much by stretching out the stories of minor characters and fumbled in the end.

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15 points

Just as long as we avoid giving money to Orson Scott Card…

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2 points

Works for me.

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We just have to wait for him to die first.

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Do longer run remakes for good source material

In that vein, I would go even farther. Cinema is a defunct, dinosaur medium, with built-in limitations. Anything worth making at all is worth making into a high-quality, high-production-value series.

You know what’s hilarious about that, though? The first people who would start shrieking that I’m going too far…you know who those people are? Film directors and obsessive fans of film directors. And yet, if I’m not VASTLY mistaken, directors always want to make a cut of every movie that’s, like, 50 hours long.

Motherfucker, that’s a series. Make a series. This is the 21st Century. We all have perfectly good screens in our houses. Let go of your popcorn fixation and just do everything as a series. ESPECIALLY if you’re adapting a comic book series or a novel, or series of novels.

If we just assume, from the get-go, that everything will be a “TV” series (even the word “television” is a stupid dinosaur word, but I’ll use it for convenience), we can also finally convince studios that they should MIX THE FUCKING AUDIO FOR PEOPLE TO HEAR IN THEIR HOUSES, WITH 2-CHANNEL SPEAKER SYSTEMS, RATHER THAN 872 CHANNEL THEATER SETUPS.

I’m fucking tired of having to turn on closed-captioning for every goddamn thing I watch.

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25 points

Chris Nolan is slowly putting on lipstick while he writes your name on his list…

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This is somehow funnier without using the picture.

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Imagine actually thinking this

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Why not? All screen media is divided into the era before Breaking Bad and the era after Breaking Bad.

Movies are obsolete. Period.

They’re like troubadours, after the spread of the printing press. They used to be the state-of-the-art in storytelling, but they have become nothing more than a silly novelty, from a bygone era.

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I’m too lazy to comment on all the other stuff, but you can get your bog-standard 2.0 stereo from any encoded track. Strikes me as kind of funny to argument with future vs. past and then stick to 1930s stereo tech for film when it’s become more easy than ever to set up a decent 5.1 system.

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That’s a fair point. Although I’m pretty sure the encoded mixes don’t really solve the dialogue-is-mixed-way-too-low problem.

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Do longer run remakes for good source material that ended up with a bad movie.

I immediately thought The Hobbit for some reason.

God that trilogy was so painful.

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I immediately thought The Hobbit for some reason.

God that trilogy was so painful.

That doesn’t count. There was a bunch of stuff in those movie that never happened in the source material.

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I think remaking it with less.

I even watched the fan edit, and it was still too much.

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Oh good to hear, I just acquired his dark materials, but haven’t seen it yet.

There are so many poorly executed great ideas. I’d love to see them redone, whatever format (tho complex stuff does tend to be better serialized… limitedly - end the story when it’s done, not when people give up on it because it fell apart)

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I agree with the premise, but your example is, like, spectacularly bad. The Ghost in the Shell movie you’re thinking of, the recent one? THAT WAS A REMAKE THAT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE, IN THE FIRST PLACE.

The original is good. It didn’t need a remake. You’re literally talking about the opposite of your whole premise. They took a movie that was already good and made a remake of it, to make it suck, except for the fact that it had Scarlett Johansson in a very tight robot suit.

EDIT: nevermind! The title is an example of how it’s currently done wrong. That makes so much sense, now that someone pointed it out.

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OP was mentioning GITS as an example of how it’s currently done (wrong). The “instead of remaking great movies” part

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Oh…that makes perfect sense.

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44 points

Your aim: logic.

Their aim: capitalism.

:-(

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The live action GitS? It was aight, but could’ve been better. As a huge fan of the story I wasn’t that upset. I just didn’t like what they did with Major (made her weak), and also didn’t like that Section 9 was getting cucked, no one cucks section 9

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The casting for the Major was just horrifying. She’s supposed to look strong, capable, and no-nonsense at first glance, then you look again and realize her robot form is also conventionally attractive. In the 2017 movie, they flipped it around, entirely backwards. Obviously, your first impression of Scarlett Johansson is that she’s attractive and feminine. Then you have to look closer and realize she’s capable of fighting.

That works for Black Widow. That’s exactly what you want for Black Widow. It’s not what you want for Motoko Kusanagi.

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Yeah, it was not the original major at all. She was more like a helpless child. In all of the other iteration she is a lethal tactical genius and a hardened war veteran.

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She was more like a helpless child. In all of the other iteration she is a lethal tactical genius and a hardened war veteran.

But with a helpless child inside her, at the core of her personality, because her traumatic transition into a brain in a robot body robbed her of the chance to actually grow up. That’s the whole point of the character. She’s psychologically stunted, despite her military capability. She can’t lower her defenses and interact on a normal social level, as a result. At the same time, she’s also never quite comfortable in her own mind and body, for the same reasons.

Batou is the only person in the story who comes even close to understanding this, which is why they have a unique bond.

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yeah personally i was hoping they’d give the role to margo martindale

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You mean award winner and highly acclaimed Character Actress Margo Martindale?

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I thought it was great. The whole trans racial angle really worked in the philosophy of the original. I loved it.

Also batou’s car holy shit that was rad

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A few months ago, I got the idea of looking for scripts of some movies I watched, liked the concept or some part of it, but disliked the overall execution, and doing a revamp of it. I have no idea of where to post my scripts, or if anyone would be interested in reading them, but your meme made me rethink and reconsider this idea. Thank you.

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